Quote: gutterfax " Remnant Nazis......PMSL.....really Damo-Leeds....you are a card Just before this thread is re-directed to the sin bin, it should be made clear that there are no remnant Nazis in France: news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politi ... 0774?f=rss

Quote: gutterfax " Remnant Nazis......PMSL.....really Damo-Leeds....you are a card Just before this thread is re-directed to the sin bin, it should be made clear that there are no remnant Nazis in France: news.sky.com/skynews/Home/Politi ... 0774?f=rss

I think that Urmston Wire gives the best argument on why Remnant Nazi’s wouldn’t be interested in suppressing rugby league as The Nazis never made a specific request for RL to be banned.

But I still can’t take his word for it as history can so easily be manipulated to suit the agendas of the ruling class or shall I say Remnant Nazi’s.

However I respect Urmston Wire’s opinions as he seemed to of researched this era a lot at some point in his life and he clearly demonstrates this in his post. Something that can’t be said about me whose put a very random one and two together that I though would create a good debate.

All I’m doing is asking questions.



The Nazi’s would have children and grandchildren by now to help them. However I’m with Urmston Wire theory at the moment that Vichy & Co used the Nazi War crimes as a smoke screen for their own activities. However I’m also open to the fact that rugby league has been suppressed by something other than bad management. If these suspicions are wrong then their wrong.

Finally - for those who are requesting that this is redirected to the sinbin you’re wrong as this is a rugby league topic. I’m trying to learn what happened during that time in France in regards to rugby league and pondering what’s happening now and over history.

No you're an idiot

I had to pick up my FREE tickets to that game from their offices .......sorry damo-leeds...there were no pictures of Hitler in reception

Like UW, this is an area I have some knowledge in.

To be honest, the truth of the matter lies not too far away from the OP.

Not by remnant Nazis. But by people whose modern ideas don't differ at all with those resident in Vichy.

there was a fair competition between union and RL in france

in the space of 6 years RL took on the established code and had effectively beaten it

most of the leading french union were going broke, the RL game showed growth everywhere from revenues, clubs, juniors and media

because RU couldnt compete on the field with RL in a fair contest they ran to the vichy (nazi puppet) government for help

RL was banned. assets of RL clubs were stolen and given to RU clubs.

the worst thing was france was undergoing the deprivations of occupations.

rather than worry about the fate of their nation some RU people thought this was a good opportunity to eliminate RL.

nope

the FFR and french government should make reparations which in todays currency would be tens of millions

Damo you forgot the Communists who banned RL in Romania.

And I think it was RU that wiped out RL in Italy

The Romania one is an interesting one. From what I've read, Ceaucescu used rugby union as a tool to differentiate his dictatorship from the other Soviet ones, and have contact with the West. And because RU is really not as global a sport as it thinks it is, it was easy to have some impact.

Of course, the RU authorities in the 80s ignored the fact that all of the RU players mysteriously had desk jobs in the army. Sound familiar?

We don't need compensation for what was done, from the French government or anyone else. There's no reason why modern RU club should have to pay for what their grandfathers did. Indeed, considering how many RL players were forced to move to RU, some towns would end up paying for being forced to abandon RL.

What we need instead is to redouble our efforts to get the game going again down there. But an acknowledgement that some wrong was committed from the French government to the French RFL wouldn't be unwelcome if offered.

I never realised the nazis were that taken with odds and ends of cloth....never mind destroying RL in southern France and elsewhere.....

Ceaucescu was off his head so I wouldnt take anything he ever said or did seriously.

He tried to repay Romanias foreign debts using strawberries and steel

Bloke was crackers.