Despite what you may or may not think about Moreley it's obvious he is way out of his depth at international level these days.

From memory he has done nothing of any real worth in an England jumper for many years.


The bloke is too old. Sure nothing wrong with being old and playing footy... look at players like Beaver Menzies and Brett Kimmorley. The difference is... both those players are great players. Moreley could never quite grasp the concept that a tackle anywhere above the neck was deemed to be a high shot.

Watching Moreley lumbering around the field is like watching a re run of those old Rocky movies... can the old bloke still cut the mustard at the top level blah blah.



Sadly in his case.... nope.

His torn bicep injury is down to his poor tackling technique that ultimately was responsible for him leaving the Chooks.


England were poor yesterday against the maori.

Very poor.


But they were certainly no worse when Moreley retired hurt.


Time to say thanks Mr Moreley for all your efforts over the years in an England/GB jumper... but now put him out to pasture somewhere just outside Eccles or wherever he lives these days

agree with what you say,been a good one but to old now and it shows .

Morley born 1977
Civoniceva born 1976
Lockyer born 1977

Spot on Barrie. The least that McNamara could have done was admit that the performance was disappointing. With exception of Tomkins and Robinson there was little to take out of that game.

Kevin Brown was invisible, my girlfriend actually asked me 30 minutes in "who is our stand off". He was that uninvolved and out of position.

Our centres did not give our wingmen and ball. They seemed to run well but were very selfish.

Our props were finished in the second half. I know Morleys injury and the jet lag would have not helped this but given the opposition they should have had something left. Too many show ponies not enough race horse.

Lets just hope that McNamara is just putting on a positive face for the media and does realise how bad that performance was.

As Barrie said Shocking!

I have said it before. Everytime I hear McNamara speak the guys sounds dillousinal with some of his comments!

What did you want him to say: "This was our final warm up game before the 4 nations, we were crap, we arent well enough prepared, our players arent good enough, we'll be lucky to make the final" ???

Can I just check that we are talking about the warm up game that England were winning comfortably 18-0 after 50 minutes when the coach took his scrum half off as a precaution and starting experimenting?

'Experimenting' should be done on the training field not in a match.

.......a free end of season holiday...and nothing more.


No one seems to care about doing the important things... ie actually winning games. I cant find the quote but I've read somewhere that Steve McNamara has said the idea to go down under for the 4 nations is 'to have a good time'

Barry McKenzie witnessed first hand the way the England side were in Australia in 2008 during the world cup. I saw members of the team walking around Surfers Paradise making cracks about the women and laughing and joking amongst themselves....on more than one occasion. I personally saw one local threaten to put quite a prominent member of the England team on his árse for making comments about his girlfriend.... pity he didnt. I saw 6 or 7 of the squad (including Tony Smith and Steve McNamara) visiting Australia Zoo in Qld whilst giggling and pushing each other around like a group of prepubescent school girls. Keith Senior was rooting some old slapper rather than doing what he was supposed to be doing...until his girlfriend found out. No wonder he wasn't allowed to go this time I saw members of the England squad on the trams in Melbourne belching loudly and pushing each other around.

In the past the GB team have spent more time doing the Bridge climb in Sydney and sunbathing on Manly beach than actually trying to win games.


Nothing wrong with any of that.... well most of it anyway....if you are a tourist. God only knows I've done worse.


But if you are a so called Rugby League professional representing your country in what has to be considered the biggest international RL competition...maybe you should be putting more thought into playing the game rather than doing the tourist thing.

Especially when you havent won a trophy since Jesus was in kindergarten

The whole England Rugby League set up needs to have a good long look at itself.

Learning to play Rugby League to a semi decent standard might be a start.

How do you suggest that they do this?