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This thread is for people who want to remember what Terry Newton did for them, which this being a RL forum was mainly entertain them by playing RL to a high standard. If you don't want to do that, fine, but couldn't you just find another thread to post in?

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Not really a highlight but something that I will never forget. Brian McDermot punching 3 Leeds players one after the other in a CC Semi final. The shocked and at the same time sort of impressed look on Terry Newton's face was priceless.

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Quote: Barry_McKenzie "Funny how someone has to die before people start praising them.

Not so long ago when Newton got busted for taking steroids or growth hormones or whatever it was you were all bagging the poor bloke senseless on these forums. If the Salem witch trials were a modern thing poor old Terry Newton would have been burnt at the stake.

Now he is dead he is on the same level as Mother Theresa in your eyes.


What is it with you Poms honestly?

Princess Diana was the biggest moll in the country before she died according to lots of people from what I remember...yet as soon as she died she was treated like a saint.






Jesus.......'"



You should read the Title of the Thread before posting, this thread is about the highlights (positives) in his career, show some respect to a fellow human being.

Back on topic, I remember quite a few Wigan/saints derby's where TN went out on the pitch to outplay KC, in many games he did.

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Quote: af "One generic one is the inevitability of Wigan making a break and him being in just the right place to back up through the centre. And if he didn't have a pace to finish it, bloody Radlinski would be on his shoulder to take the pass.'"


As I climbed the stairs to bed last night I was thinking of what summed up Newton as a great player. That is exactly the scenario I came up with.

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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



Quote: af "This thread is for people who want to remember what Terry Newton did for them, which this being a RL forum was mainly entertain them by playing RL to a high standard. If you don't want to do that, fine, but couldn't you just find another thread to post in?'"



The bottom line is this.


Would you have started this thread had Terry Newton not been found dead yesterday?


I have no idea if you were one of the many that were bagging him out on these very boards when he got busted for taking HGH.

I sincerely hope not.

Otherwise that would make you an even bigger hypocrite than all the many people who have posted on this site (and all the many other threads across the internet) saying what a lovely bloke and a fantastic player he was.


I know little about Terry Newton as a player other than he broke Sean Longs jaw (which I'm told was deemed bad enough to get him banned for almost a year) and was found to have taken human growth hormones.

As a human being I didn't know him. Maybe he was a nice bloke. Maybe he wasn't. I've got no idea. As probably 90% of the people who have posted on this forum have got no idea.

Its just a shame a lot of you didnt show the same compassion towards him on these very same forums when it transpired that he had taken HGH.


The facts are that this poor bloke killed himself and he leaves 2 small children.... who will be devastated beyond belief right now about what happened to their father. I dont know how old they are. Maybe one day they will read this (and the many other) threads started since 1500 hrs yesterday.

But maybe they will also read the ones from last year or whenever it was that were calling for him to be banned from Rugby League forever for taking drugs when he was about as popular round here with you lot as Johnathan Thurston and Billy Slater seem to be.



My thoughts go out to Terry Newtons family for everything thats happened.

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I'll be the controversial one and say the Gilmour and Long incidents in 2005 have always stuck in my mind - partly because I was sat in line with the Long hit and remember watching him staggering around afterwards. Thinking he was simply stunned I remember shouting "what day is it Sean??".

At the time of course we had no idea of the extent of either injury and just thought Terry had 'done a job' on two of Saints' best players. As far as I knew he'd simply knocked Gilmour senseless and while it was clear he'd gone late on Long we had no idea it was such a bad injury.

Just as Saints fans hated Newton, we hated Long but likewise that was a reflection of his quality and his character.

In hindsight of course that game wasn't a highlight of his career, he let his passion get the better of him, definitely not his finest moment and he paid the price with the lengthy ban. He was a quality No.9, always seemed to pop up in support and put in a hit or turn play around when it mattered.

Poor Terry. icon_sad.gif

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Quote: Rommel "No i only hate player's when they deliberatly go out to injure one of your player's i.e Sean Long who still today can't close his left eye ?'"

Due to the injury he sustained v Salford last season not because of Newton.

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GB vs Aus, can't remember the year but Tony Smith was doing his annoying thing of 'spelling' hookers from the interchange bench. We'd been doing OK in our sets, making good ground, then Smith took Newton off and suddenly we were going nowhere, just bashing into the Aussie line. Soon as Newton came back on we were going forward again.

I started watching Newton a lot more closely. At every PTB when most dummy halves would be watching the ball, Newton would take a look right and left before picking up the ball. In those two quick glances he was able to take in all the players in each line and with the following pass would pick out the GB player whose opposing tackler was mis-matched.

It might sound daft after the amount of RL I've watched but it was like a Damacene conversion. It suddenly dawned on me that Newton was a lot more than the biff-balling thug I'd always thought.

Let's hope the guy finds the peace in death that seemed to have eluded him in life.

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Quote: Barry_McKenzie "Otherwise that would make you an even bigger hypocrite than all the many people who have posted on this site (and all the many other threads across the internet) saying what a lovely bloke and a fantastic player he was.


I know little about Terry Newton as a player other than he broke Sean Longs jaw (which I'm told was deemed bad enough to get him banned for almost a year) and was found to have taken human growth hormones.

As a human being I didn't know him. Maybe he was a nice bloke. Maybe he wasn't. I've got no idea. As probably 90% of the people who have posted on this forum have got no idea.

Its just a shame a lot of you didnt show the same compassion towards him on these very same forums when it transpired that he had taken HGH.


The facts are that this poor bloke killed himself and he leaves 2 small children.... who will be devastated beyond belief right now about what happened to their father. I dont know how old they are. Maybe one day they will read this (and the many other) threads started since 1500 hrs yesterday.

But maybe they will also read the ones from last year or whenever it was that were calling for him to be banned from Rugby League forever for taking drugs when he was about as popular round here with you lot as Johnathan Thurston and Billy Slater seem to be.



My thoughts go out to Terry Newtons family for everything thats happened.'"


I don't think anybody is making that out.

Internet forums are awful places when it comes to criticising players. It's easy to go along with the hysteria about how Terry Newton could be a "thug" or "drugs cheat", without remembering that he could be an excellent rugby league footballer and an excellent servant to the clubs he represented.

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Quote: bramleyrhino "I don't think anybody is making that out.

Internet forums are awful places when it comes to criticising players. It's easy to go along with the hysteria about how Terry Newton could be a "thug" or "drugs cheat", without remembering that he could be an excellent rugby league footballer and an excellent servant to the clubs he represented.'"



I agree.

The thing that shiits me is where was all the support on this type of forum for the bloke when he really needed it when he tested positive for HGH?

I gather Terry Newton had a Facebook account. Maybe he used to read these boards too and see some of the vile stuff people wrote about him. Didn't see many people saying what a top bloke/wonderful player he was then?



Whenever someone dies it seems to be we get this massive outpouring of grief from people who never knew the person even though many of the same people who are expressing these emotions are the same people who would have called for him to be cast into the pit for all eternity not so long ago.

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Barry - you have made your point (and some would say it's a valid one), but maybe you could drop it now?

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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



Quote: Dunbar "Barry - you have made your point (and some would say it's a valid one), but maybe you could drop it now?'"



Absolutely.

Things like this sicken me.


Most people make mistakes in life.

Why wait until they are no longer with us before we do or say anything constructive.

That is all.

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I've not outpoured grief and I've not excused any of his actions. I've set up a thread where people can share memories of what a good rugby player he was. I wouldn't have set it up if he hadn't have died but because he has I'm thinking of him, for all the good that does, and other people are too. One tiny bit of good we can do is share some memories of the positive things he did. What's the point of harking back to the negative? He can hardly be punished any more severely now. I understand the 'RIP' sentiment but isn't a bit more meaningful when people specify why someone meant something to them, even if it was only the minor impact a player has on the life of a fan, even if it was with mixed feelings at the time or after?

Cheers to everyone who has posted their memories, I've enjoyed reading them
and I hope other people do too.

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His love for the game! Showed by his sadness at losing.

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Quote: Rommel "No i only hate player's when they deliberatly go out to injure one of your player's i.e Sean Long who still today can't close his left eye ?
The rugby player was a thug who played dirty and had no respect with me?

AS a human being and family man nobody deserves to die in such tragic circumstances? RIP Terry'"


Holy cow.
I find myself agreeing with everything you say.
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