How is the location of Castleford, Wakefield and Hull KR more appealing?

Makes no sense at all.

The catchment area of Widnes is the Borough of Halton. A pop of arround 120k Thats before we go into Liverpool, an area where Saints are our only real competition for supporters of Rugby league.

To say this area is overcrowded is nonsense.

Give it 6 years of SL, with Ste O running the club and i predict we will be seeing bigger crowds than Saints, with healthier financial results and a better youth policy.

Wire, is a harder target but one i believe we can overcome. I have never been so impressed with what Widnes are doing, and honestly feel with the people we have running the club currently the sky is the limit.

Incredibly lofty ambitions there. What crowds do you reckon Saints will be getting for Widnes to be beating them?

Why would Warrington be a harder target? They are limited by a stadium that is at least 5,000 spaces too small for them.

Ignore the dumb Saints idiot, he is just on a wind up and never has anything interesting to say anyway.

What amazing news for the club. Considering our crowds aren't much different between now and before, this just goes to show how different a change in ownership can bring. We've not just met the RFL's criteria for one million pound turnover, we have obliterated it. When some clubs are asking for sky money early, we are posting very healthy profits.

I am amazed by this news.

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Get in there.

Amazed is not the word Chris

Cleverly done I,ll admit , lose 1 million one year , make a million profit the next , all on a turnover of around a million more than you could reasonably expect given your crowds and previous accounts

Nice one Steve

Because Warrington are a bigger, better run club than saints. With the facilities and a chairman who can make them a success. wire will go from strength to strength for the next few years.

Saints will start rebuilding, And you got what at your peak? 9.5k avg. Knock 2k off that easy when you are a top 6 team only. Widnes can match that, especially with SL funding and a chairman with a bit of vision.

I dont think i have lofty ambitions, i think my ambitions are the clubs ambitions. Our chairman wouldnt be here if he wanted us to make up the numbers.

Excellent set of results for Widnes.

Shows what can be achieved in the lower leagues with a club run professionally.

A turnover of £2.5 million with no Sky money to speak of along with almost no away support turning up at their ground shows that they must be doing a lot off the field.

Add in £1.3 million sky money along with increased gate money and sponsorships, and they would probably turnover £4 - £5 million in SL.

As for the Widnes speccies saying they would be bigger than Saints. I think he is living on cloud cookoo land. Even when Widnes had Offiah and co in the late 1980's and Saints were crap, we still had more fans.

Wire however is a different proposition. They are at present perhaps in the greatest period of their clubs history, playing in a modern stadium, yet are still getting lower crowds than Saints.

rfl will have a say still
they will give quins £££

Come on Chris , I know your going into SL next march ,but please don't turn into SL fans before you even get the nod

You are not stupid enough to believe that a club can maintain roughly the same attendances , sponsorship and turnover and yet make a 2 million turnaround in it's profits , it works out at 80 percent of it,s turnover , those would be the most incredible figures ever posted in pro sport , or even any business for that matter

last year I was defending your figures for the million loss to fans who were suggesting a problem , this now explains those figures

Clever , but ever so naughty as well , Mr O Connor is learning fast how to bull ----

I agree that it's unlikely we'll ever beat Saints and we have in fact beaten Wire on numerous occasions including the last period we were in Super League.

However, the last year we were in Super League we finished 11th with crowds of almost 7k. Saints got 3k more despite coming top of the league....

With a new ground, we wouldn't get close.

At worst it is still breaking even based on those and we still easily beat the £1m turnover.

Being debt free is the biggest bonus for mine.

Spot on Max , as I said , last year I was defending your figures on the loss , but now it all becomes clear

Widnes will turn over just over a million on their figures , and should be close to breaking even , they are the only club in the Championships in any sort of shape to move up into SL by franchise