After Tuesday when the Odsal sports village gets the chop from the council they will be heading for oblivion playing at Valley parade in a sh**hole area with ever dwindling crowds. First division rugby will be the outcome if they are lucky.

During the off season, loads of people kept bigging up Bradford's recruitment and tipping big things. I felt like I was the only one who thought they'd brought in a bunch of nobodies other than Orford, and let go some of their most influential players.

Where have all the "Bradford, Champions 2010" brigade gone?

I think McNamara is having the same problem that Agar had at Hull, that being having a team of players who are just going through the motions. Agar has cut out the deadwood and replaced them with leaders. McNamara seems to have brought in a lot of average players to replace other average players. There's no point in cutting out the deadwood if you're gonna replace it with similar players.

Totally dumbass and invalid poll. Needs a "none of the above" option else it is not valid.

If the OSV does not go ahead, the club faces oblivion.

Would it be so bad playing at Valley Parade though,i went there when the Bulls played Widnes about 1990 ish and it seemed an ideal RL venue and its improved a lot since then

Most away fans hated it. Home fans voted with their feet despite us having a champion side and our average crowds were lower at VP than they were at Odsal.

I don't like to think what crowds would be at VP to watch the current side.

However I do think we'll be there for next season. The club will have a devil of a job keeping crowds up once we're there.

Two games in and whats the panic ?

They are a side still in transition and people will have to accept this, it takes time to build a side up.

well if we can panic after 1 game, its only fair they can after 2

Yeah, unfortunately you don't do that by replacing the likes of Vainikolo, Hape, Withers and Burgess with Sheriffe, Sykes, Platt and Danny Sculthorpe. I've never seen such an alarming decrease in a club's squad over four years.

I've never seen such an increase in a clubs youth development side of things in four years either.

AFAIK Leeds had to choose between Scruton or Burgess on who to keep. They made the right call given how good burgess was playing at the time.

p.s. If Glenn Hall is quality, he better start showing it and fecking soon!

He was alot better than Lynch on sunday, and no-one doubts Lynch's quality.