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Quote: cadoo "In a nutshell.

Brian Carney is the only one of the sky commentary team who talks sense. He said that teams should have only 2 or 3 world class imports from either Australia or New Zealand and the rest should be eligible to play England or Great Britain.

For an overseas player to be successful (IMO) he has to be one of the best players in the team & one of the best players, in his position, in super league. At the moment this is not the case with too many imports.'"


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Quote: Damo-Leeds "And You Want Less Aussies Playing In Super League?'"

No. Fewer.

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Damo is obviously a Leeds fan who wants to increase the number of overseas players at his club.

Webb, Donald, Delaney, Leuluai, Buderus, Lauitiiti and Eastwood.
So much for grow your own at Leeds eh!

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Quote: Rogues Gallery "Damo is obviously a Leeds fan who wants to increase the number of overseas players at his club.

Webb, Donald, Delaney, Leuluai, Buderus, Lauitiiti and Eastwood.
So much for grow your own at Leeds eh!'"

Leeds like Wigan produce more than enough home grown talent than the rest of super league put together. Every super league club will probably have an ex Leeds or Wigan academy player in it. Both are focus on producing home grown players more than any other super league team with St Helens only really catching up.

Can’t speak for Wigan but Leeds whilst Gary Hetherington is at the top will always have the perfect blend of the best talent in the local area along side class over sea’s players. Hence why we are at the top of the league. I do hope however that a local lad is good enough to take over the likes of Webb, Donald, Delaney, Leuluai, Buderus, Lauitiiti and Eastwood in the next few seasons rather than given the right because he’s local. That’s when we’ll start beating the Aussies.

Quote: Rogues Gallery "All the Australians in SL currently are shocking, bar Greg Bird.'"

Nothing shocking about the Australians who won a grand finals winners ring with Leeds this year. Again I must stress that home grown players must earn the right to over take these Australians rather than given the right.

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How many are born in Leeds and not pinched from other town like Dewsburry,Batley,Drigglington and Cas and Wakie area.

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Quote: John_D "No. Fewer.'"


Do you have any idea how long I've been resisting making that post? icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: Victoria tiger "How many are born in Leeds and not pinched from other town like Dewsburry,Batley,Drigglington and Cas and Wakie area.'"

It doesn’t matter its still an English club bringing English players through to the top level.

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Quote: Damo-Leeds "It doesn’t matter its still an English club bringing English players through to the top level.'"
yes your not playing the system properly if you sticked to your own service areas there would be more younsters playing every team giving them chance to delope instead of loosing from the game for good.

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And how many SL chairmen will vote to reduce the overseas number to three per club?
Answer, four out of fourteen.
The rest won't because they haven't got the players to fill the vacated positions.
As one former CEO told me "The tail wags the dog in Super League".

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The problem with having 6 overseas players each is that some teams can bring over 1 or 2 quality ones but then the rest are average. But these average players are getting games ahead of their British equivalents just because they are taking up a quota spot. Eventually, I'd like to see the quota go down to 3 or less.

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Yes great idea. All the clubs should spend even more of their sky tv money on signing more Aussies instead of investing in our youth icon_rolleyes.gif

Using an example from last nights line up we had two Wigan lads in the team. One moved to Humberside for a first team spot and the other spent time in the reserves until Tim Smith was injured.

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Quote: right said father ted "the other spent time in the reserves until Tim Smith was injured.'"


Not true, Tomkins played just as many games as Tim Smith prior to him being injured. Oh, and Briscoe couldn't get a game behind the best British fullback ever, is the reason why he left. That and he's gash.

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3 non eligible England or France players and they must have played rep football within the last 3 years. That would sort it out straight away!

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Quote: Saddened! "All the Australians in SL currently are shocking, bar Greg Bird. The signings of over the hill players with no interest other than securing a pension like Buderus is one of many things causing our international anonymity.

Signing players like Inglis, Slater or Hayne should always be encouraged if it's possible to do it. Same with the like of Bird, Lyon or Johnson. But there are far, far too many players who are brought over who are too old.'"


I have to agree with you.

Over the past few seasons only

Lyon
Barrett
Menzies
Bird

have relly cut the mustard as overseas signings, we need top quality. At Wigan we have had many good players like Carmont and Pat Richards but they only look good because other players in that position are so poor. We have also signed too many average aussies, IMO the signings fromm overseas should be top quality like Barret and Lyon or a great deal who will do the job like Carmont and Phelps, anywhere in between likemost of the imports just don't justify a place in the team over an English player.

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