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The RFL already do a cashback incentive for amateur clubs. It was launched in earnest this year but the main balls up was them wanting £100pp Mid June for 2 end of season internationals as the package included a Puma match shirt and they take 12 weeks to be delivered apparently. However, they are already pushing the scheme for Wembley weekend next year which gives clubs a lot more notice to put something on. They have a couple of fellas working full time at the RFL on it, including going round visiting clubs, one of whom is ex-referee Ray Tennant.

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:did anybody notice that all barla fixtures went ahead on saturday most of them while england were playing the kangaroos, can anybody explain that one

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Quote: bladder "

That's a bit odd, especially if they sell international tickets to the amateur clubs. What about this weekend, are BARLA fixtures going ahead.

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No. It is merely still regaining lost ground from the super league war.

Which part of that is a struggle???

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Quote: Ashulster "That's a bit odd, especially if they sell international tickets to the amateur clubs. What about this weekend, are BARLA fixtures going ahead.'"


It does seem bizarre, but i suppose barla can't afford 4 weeks off

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Quote: paulscunthorpe "It does seem bizarre, but i suppose barla can't afford 4 weeks off'"

Can they afford to play the games on the Friday night or Sunday? icon_rolleyes.gif

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: andyed-wiganrl "what they need to do rather than doing desperate last minute things like this....



Do that and before you even look at central RL sales youve got sales of somewhere in the region of 60k....how else do you think RU sells out Twickenham each week.

Until the RL do this we will forever look small time in international events as the games are only in the 'supporters eye' for one week of the year and sales cant be built up. If we sold tickets like this we could play 4 nations group games at places like Anfield, Old Trafford, C of M etc and make our game look credible as RU do.

Instead the RL are apathetic, do no marketing and take the game to somewhere like doncaster, where no one can be bothered going, we get circa 6-7k pre game sales the week before, by which the RL then brick themselves at the disgrace and how it will make the sport look, and start practically giving tickets away thus further devaluing the international game!!
There should be competition for which club can sell the most tickets!

We don't need to lower prices too much just to get people in the gate, lets just try new things.

Our marketing team at Wigan is the best in the league easily, the RFL should take notice.

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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "There should be competition for which club can sell the most tickets!

We don't need to lower prices too much just to get people in the gate, lets just try new things.

Our marketing team at Wigan is the best in the league easily, the RFL should take notice.'"


The marketing team at Wigan must have the easiest job in the world.

RL fans in Wigan will always come and watch them.


Wigan could sack all their current squad and hire the entire Celtic Crusaders side and the fans would still come and watch

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Barry_McKenzie "The marketing team at Wigan must have the easiest job in the world.

RL fans in Wigan will always come and watch them.


Wigan could sack all their current squad and hire the entire Celtic Crusaders side and the fans would still come and watch'"


Not really true, you obviously don't know anything about late 70s and early 80s at Wigan.

They have an easy job at the moment in getting decent crowds and to be honest they don't need bigger ones, we already dwarf other clubs other than Leeds with the crowds we get, but you would expect leeds to be higher as they have won 3 championships on the run. The Wigan marketing team are the only ones going the extra mile to get bigger crowds, we got over 20,000 for a game that normally gets 14-16,000 and 14,000 against harlequins at home, and they have done research and found out that we have an old fan base overall and have made season tickets £30 for kids.

Don't post about a topic you know nothing about.

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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "Not really true, you obviously don't know anything about late 70s and early 80s at Wigan.

They have an easy job at the moment in getting decent crowds and to be honest they don't need bigger ones, we already dwarf other clubs other than Leeds with the crowds we get, but you would expect leeds to be higher as they have won 3 championships on the run. The Wigan marketing team are the only ones going the extra mile to get bigger crowds, we got over 20,000 for a game that normally gets 14-16,000 and 14,000 against harlequins at home, and they have done research and found out that we have an old fan base overall and have made season tickets £30 for kids.

Don't post about a topic you know nothing about.'"


It hasn't stopped you 4838 times icon_wink.gif

So what ideas do the Wigan marketing team bring in to raise the crowds at the games which will be less well attended?

I'm genuinely interested.


london Harlebroncos have tried having a street dancing competition, a family 'day' (that started an hour before kick off) and most unbelievably of all ...they showed Harlequins UNION side playing Cardiff Blues...in the bar on a big screen...for the paltry sum of just TEN POUNDS admission to try and raise money.
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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Barry_McKenzie "It hasn't stopped you 4838 times
I was going to say the same thing about you but I'm nice to you icon_wink.gif

Ok, well for the quins game at home they sold the whole North stand to a local company called Heinz (incase you don't know who they are icon_wink.gif ) which is 5,500 seats which don't normally get sold as this is the away stand and we get no away fans from Celtic, Quins, Hudds, Catalans, so they dont even bother opening the stand. This meant extra revenue and a big crowd for what is normally a poop game and atmosphere.

They have also given out free tickets out in schools and done great deals for local sports teams.

I am not sure if you were aware of the 'BIG ONE' which started this year but they basically did cheap tickets, all sorts of deals, t-shirts, mugs, car stickers and just marketed the hell out of a game and got a huge crowd.

No other super league club does things like this, and the thing is they are the ones who need to.

If Wigan can get 20,000 fans at home then England can get 75,000 at old trafford, no question.

Cheap tickets
Discount for season ticket holders at clubs
Clever marketing
Get the clubs on board
Free tickets for kids
Family tickets
Discounts for big groups
Competitions for who can sell the most tickets
Interviews about game on tv and radio
Adverts all over the place
Ticket details sent by post to all season ticket holders of the clubs
Big stadium, top class facilities
Big events on the day

There is so much more that could go on this list, and alot of them don't even involve cutting prices, but most of them would help get bigger crowds.

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Agreed they should play all England v Oz and NZ games at 30-40,000 grounds. France at 20-25,000 grounds.

Simple really best tickets 25quid, behind the sticks 20 quid, under 16's free

Sell clubs (amateur and professional) 10 tickets for the price of 8. Clubs make 40-50 quid on every 10 tickets sold.

RFL get wads of cash, clubs earn a fair whack and RL gets on telly in fornt of big crowds. so simple yet so far away!

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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "I was going to say the same thing about you but I'm nice to you
Some good ideas there...pity some of the less supported clubs couldn't do the same thing.

Its gotta be easier in Wigan though...you are preaching to the already converted I suppose

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Dropkick Murphy..we actually saw and heard a mass of bouncing and scarf and flag waving to Dale Cavese that drowned out anything we could muster.. It stopped us singing our own celebratory songs, it died out seconds later when we accepted we couldn't be heard over the Wigan lot Celebrations muted from us, job done from them. Most fans who slag them off are jealous their own club's support is nowhere near that good - sally cinnamon..Why not discuss Wigan? It's a rugby league message board. Wigan are the most famous brand in rugby league - Tre Cool..Saints fans are hopeless unless it's a cup final or grand final. Wigan fans are so much more loyal and passionate - the flying biscuit..Wires havent been massively succesful over the years, but I've spoke to Brian Bevan And he spoke to me and i wouldnt swap that for Wigans History, ever - Ande..on the TV i could only hear the Wigan fans with about 10 to go - Saint94..Every team is in your feckin shadow, we all know - FIOS:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_39110.jpg



Quote: Barry_McKenzie "Some good ideas there...pity some of the less supported clubs couldn't do the same thing.

Its gotta be easier in Wigan though...you are preaching to the already converted I suppose'"


The fact that once Warrington got a new stadium and started winning they got crowds like saints and Bradford says otherwise. There are so many rugby fans who watch at home, it clear from the stats on who watches sport on sky sports.

Whenever a team gets to a final there is suddenly 10,000 more fans from no where.

Yes it's easier in Wigan, but surely the same thing can be done on a smaller scale even in the lower leagues. It's so simple!

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[i:2v2cei1t]'You put your Wendell in, You take your Brownie out, You put your Bennett in, And you make it to the 8, You do the Oki Chokie, And you get knocked out, Thats what St George are about' [/i:2v2cei1t] [quote="dally messenger":2v2cei1t]parra had no ball and still looked like scoring all the time[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="The Chief":2v2cei1t]What a knob Barrie MacKenzie is.[/quote:2v2cei1t] [quote="gutterfax":2v2cei1t]I like Bazza. He chose the name of a cross dressing Austalian institutions other persona.....and is your typical Aussie w@nker living in London whilst he tries to get some culture by visiting Prague to get pi55ed on Cheap Star, getting a fondle from a dodgy hooker in amsterdam and eating a snail for a bet when in paris. All of these things will make him a cultural icon when his visa runs out and he is sent the way of his great grandparents....alas, not in chains this time.[/quote:2v2cei1t] NEW COMPETITION COMING SOON!! YOU COULD BE THE NEXT BARRY McKENZIE!! WATCH THIS SPACE!! Barry McKenzie can be contacted at aussielegendbaz@gmail.com:45452.jpg



Quote: Odemwingie "The fact that once Warrington got a new stadium and started winning they got crowds like saints and Bradford says otherwise. There are so many rugby fans who watch at home, it clear from the stats on who watches sport on sky sports.

Whenever a team gets to a final there is suddenly 10,000 more fans from no where.

Yes it's easier in Wigan, but surely the same thing can be done on a smaller scale even in the lower leagues. It's so simple!'"


Try telling the good people at Harlequins how simple it is!!!!

I wasn't in England when London Broncos made the challenge cup final....but I'm sure they would have had a decent following at Wembley.

Surely it couldnt be that hard to tempt some of them back

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