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982.jpg [quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Leeds played with two British centres all season.
One has retired (but is still probably the best) and the other was Lee Smith.
If other clubs didn't play antipodeans in their threequarters then Lee Smith might not have been selected.
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1617.jpg [quote="Meyt N Prater Pie"]I think I hate wigan.[/quote]:1617.jpg |
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| Quote: OoOGazOoO "Id play him at fullback against the Kiwis.
Smith
Briscoe
Ellis
Shenton
Hall.
I dont like Shaun Briscoe at full back.'"
I wouldn't argue with that.
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| Quote: OoOGazOoO "I dont like Shaun Briscoe at full back.'"
He did nothing wrong on Saturday and was fairly solid.
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3076_1671446335.jpg SAINTS THE ORIGINAL AND PERENNIAL CHEATS
For sale full Saints kit (circa 1989). Shirts in pristine condition, but shorts badly soiled.
For 27 - 0 you get a trophy
For 75 - 0 you get sod all.
Wigan had eight in a row
Saints have five in a row:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3076.jpg |
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| Quote: G1 "Leeds played with two British centres all season.
One has retired (but is still probably the best) and the other was Lee Smith.
If other clubs didn't play antipodeans in their threequarters then Lee Smith might not have been selected.'"
Will they play with two British centres next season?
just for a bit of fun.
Pick 3 teams from your club
1) All British
2) All that have come through your academy
3) All local born(i.e for the Saints side all St.Helens born.)
All must be eligible for Superleague 2010
Thinking caps on.
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20333_1393344959.gif Current thoughts - Mago out or get running up them plantations, get fit or get rid.
Maybe a back up halfback, someone with a bit of experience on a short term deal.
Big tall strong running second rower, like a McMeekin or Sironen type back rower.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_20333.gif |
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1- Richards
2- Goulding
3- Gleeson
4- Pryce
5- Ainscough
6- O'Loughlin
7- Tomkins
8- Fielden
9- McIllorum
10- Prescott
11- Coley
12- Mossop
13- Tomkins
14- O'Carroll
15- Davies
16- Farrell
17- Mellor
Wigan Academy
1- Briscoe
2- Aspinwall
3- Wild
4- Brown
5- Ainscough
6- S.Tomkins
7- Sean Long
8- Prescott
9- McIllorum
10- O'Carroll
11- Gilmour
12- Wild
13- O'Loughlin
14- Hansen
15- Hargreaves
16- Bibey He has 2 challenge cup winners medals you know!
17- Jones/Deacon/Robinson
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Wigan Lads
1- Briscoe
2- Aspinwall
3- Gleeson
4- Brown
5- Goulding
6- S.Tomkins
7- Long
8- Prescott
9- Newton
10- Wood
11- Tickle
12- Wild
13- O'Loughlin
14- J.Tomkins
15- Hargreaves
16- Clarke
17- Fitzpatrick
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2. Smith
3. Walker
4. Gibson
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Tansey
8. Burgess
9. McShane
10. Bailey
11. Jones-Buchanan
12. Ablett
13. Murrell
14. Jones-Bishop
15. Kaye
16. Scruton
17. Williams
All born and have played for Leeds in last 5 years and doesn't include players such as Burrow, Sinfield, Diskin, Calderwood, Ward, Watkins; If going for Leeds lads can add Peacock.
For next season:
1. Jones-Bishop
2. Broughton
3. Coady
4. Senior
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Burrow
8. Bailey
9. Diskin
10. Peacock
11. Jones-Buchanan
12. Ablett
13. Sinfield
14. Burgess
15. McShane
16. Watkins
17. Kirke
18. Amor
19. Pitts
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8903.gif [quote="dave m":36nw6ut6]Briscoe couldn't get into Wigans Team because of Radlinski even though Radlinski was playing crap at the time still better than old bent nose.[/quote:36nw6ut6]
[quote="redtillimdead":36nw6ut6]Oh and as for Briscoe,if he was that fab,why did Wigan see fit to let him leave?[/quote:36nw6ut6]:8903.gif |
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| Quote: cherrydevil "He did nothing wrong on Saturday and was fairly solid.'"
Exactly. Not good enough at this level. Not that do have any fullbacks good enough for this level, mind.
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| Quote: PONNER "Never mind if he's deserved his place on merit or not throughout the season, he should not have been picked. If Tony Smith is building for the 2013 World Cup then why pick a player who's played his last game of club rugby league?'"
Exactly. this is a lose-lose scenario. As it is he was a marginal selection. What is the benfit to English RL in playing him? If if someone else picked in this position played as poorly as he did (it would be difficult to play worse) then at least it would be a tough experience they could hopefully learn from. Or we move onto the next person on the list until the right one is found. With Smith - he's gone no matter what. And if Smith did play adequately he is still gone and a replacement will need finding. The only beneficiaries from a decent Smith performance would be the England RU who wouldn't miss the opportunity to cash in on the publicity. A truly inexplicable selection.
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Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif "As you travel through life don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things" - George Carlin
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| Quote: Ken Acker "Exactly. this is a lose-lose scenario. As it is he was a marginal selection. What is the benfit to English RL in playing him? If if someone else picked in this position played as poorly as he did (it would be difficult to play worse) then at least it would be a tough experience they could hopefully learn from. Or we move onto the next person on the list until the right one is found. With Smith - he's gone no matter what. And if Smith did play adequately he is still gone and a replacement will need finding. The only beneficiaries from a decent Smith performance would be the England RU who wouldn't miss the opportunity to cash in on the publicity. A truly inexplicable selection.'"
I love this line of argument.
If Tony Smith had picked an experimental side full of young kids who weren't the first choice selection and it had got stuffed by 60, he would have been crucified for selling out those who had paid good money to see a competitive game.
He picks what was arguably his best available side, it gets as close to Australia as any GB/England side in the last five years (with one exception) and all of a sudden he should have been building for the future rather than picking a side to win in the here and now.
If people want teams picked for development purposes, why is nobody questioning the selections of Morley and Peacock?
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| Why are people banging on about building for the bl00dy world cup, thats not what Internationals are about, we need to pick the best available team to win the tournament that we are playing in. Picking players who may or may not be good enough or available for a tournament thats taking place in 4 years time is pure lunacy.
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| I'm less inclined to blame Lee Smith and McGuire than I am to blame Tony Smith for another of his magical defensive patterns.
He even outdid the ones he treated us to in the World Cup, which I didn't think possible.
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Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif "As you travel through life don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things" - George Carlin
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| Quote: FearTheVee "I'm less inclined to blame Lee Smith and McGuire than I am to blame Tony Smith for another of his magical defensive patterns.
He even outdid the ones he treated us to in the World Cup, which I didn't think possible.'"
Against inferior sides like the Welsh and the French you can offer them the opportunity to go wide in the knowledge there's a good chance they will muck it up and turn the ball over.
You can't challenge the Aussies and Kiwis in the same way - you have to respect the threat out wide irrespective of where you are on the field.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "I love this line of argument.
If Tony Smith had picked an experimental side full of young kids who weren't the first choice selection and it had got stuffed by 60, he would have been crucified for selling out those who had paid good money to see a competitive game.
He picks what was arguably his best available side, it gets as close to Australia as any GB/England side in the last five years (with one exception) and all of a sudden he should have been building for the future rather than picking a side to win in the here and now.
If people want teams picked for development purposes, why is nobody questioning the selections of Morley and Peacock?'"
The point you miss is that Lee Smith simply isn't that good and he offered no clear evidence he was was clearly better than the other contenders for the job even before his pitiful effort. If he was at the Mark Gasnier level of centre play then you would have a point - Smith isn't anywhere that close. Morley and Peacock OTOH have a justifiable case that they can offer a good deal more than the alternatives, plus they will still be around next year at the least. Smith will be gone, sadly for England a month too late.
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3761.gif i pick up the mike
and then create rhymes
with a sense of direction
that's willing and keen
and then groove
without nothing to prove
and to give you a clue
what new thing to be seen
we'll take you on up
bring you back down
you'll feel good
we'll help you unwind
when you feel vibes
it makes me feel right
and that's the way that i make it mine
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| Quote: post "British
1- Richards
2- Goulding
3- Gleeson
4- Pryce
5- Ainscough
6- O'Loughlin
7- Tomkins
8- Fielden
9- McIllorum
10- Prescott
11- Coley
12- Mossop
13- Tomkins
14- O'Carroll
15- Davies
16- Farrell
17- Mellor
Wigan Academy
1- Briscoe
2- Aspinwall
3- Wild
4- Brown
5- Ainscough
6- S.Tomkins
7- Sean Long
8- Prescott
9- McIllorum
10- O'Carroll
11- Gilmour
12- Wild
13- O'Loughlin
14- Hansen
15- Hargreaves
16- Bibey
cracking effort and it was going really well until u said that kev brown was a wigan lad
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3761.gif i pick up the mike
and then create rhymes
with a sense of direction
that's willing and keen
and then groove
without nothing to prove
and to give you a clue
what new thing to be seen
we'll take you on up
bring you back down
you'll feel good
we'll help you unwind
when you feel vibes
it makes me feel right
and that's the way that i make it mine
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| and the tomkins brothers are from chorley, not wigan
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