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| Those who are advocating brand new competitions - when will they be played and what (apart from the off-season) would they replace?
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| Salary Cap
The RFL should grant special dispensation to clubs promoting their players through their own academy. Allow say only 50% of the players wage to contribute to the salary cap. This would allow clubs to pay “their” own players more money and maybe keep them from going to RU or moving to a “bigger” club. I think this would encourage clubs to promote their own youngsters and this would be beneficial to the international set up. With more young English kids coming through hopefully we would stop signing overpaid Aussies.
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IMO teams should be allowed no more than 5 players born outside the EU in the squad. This would be reduced on to 3 for match day squads. Again this would encourage teams to promote their own or British players. I don’t know how that would work with the employment laws but it could be worth a shot.
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| Quote: Mark_Thompson "Overseas Quota
IMO teams should be allowed no more than 5 players born outside the EU in the squad. This would be reduced on to 3 for match day squads. Again this would encourage teams to promote their own or British players. I don’t know how that would work with the employment laws but it could be worth a shot.'"
The "born in" bit would fall on its backside.
If a person has the right to an EU passport through ancestry then where they are born is irrelevant, they have the same rights as an EU born person to be able to work within the EU.
Effectively it would be no different to the old system prior to the introduction of the federation trained rule, with teams scouring NRL reserve grades looking for players with EU grandparents to get around the quota.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Those who are advocating brand new competitions - when will they be played and what (apart from the off-season) would they replace?'" I was working on the fact that we still play some teams more than twice, but on reflection, is that still happening since we moved to 14 teams?
My extra competition would also mean the teams were made of mostly youngsters, some of whom won't be first teamers, and the 5 metre rule will probably mean there's less wear and tear physically on the players competing.
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| Quote: Mark_Thompson "Salary Cap
The RFL should grant special dispensation to clubs promoting their players through their own academy. Allow say only 50% of the players wage to contribute to the salary cap. This would allow clubs to pay “their” own players more money and maybe keep them from going to RU or moving to a “bigger” club. I think this would encourage clubs to promote their own youngsters and this would be beneficial to the international set up. With more young English kids coming through hopefully we would stop signing overpaid Aussies. '"
Sounds a great idea. BUT if they introduced it, the teams who would benefit most by a long way would be Leeds and St Helens. That would make them stronger than they are at present, thus making the gap bigger.
What they should do is separate the club academies into regional RL academies based at a leading sports college/uni which produce the players. From there they should have a televised draft pick, enabling the lowest placed side the chance to get the best youngsters each year, thus levelling things out. That or ban the top 4 from applying such salary cap reductions for a certain time period.
Another flaw in your plan is that only about 4 clubs in SL could financially cope with an increased salary cap. Leeds, Wire, Hull KR and Huddersfield potentially the ones capable. All that would do is either bankrupt some other clubs or mean that Saints are replaced by Warrington. It wouldn't improve anything.
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| Overseas Quota.
This would benefit RL in genral rather than just British RL. French players should not be counted on the overseas quota. The reason NZ are so good at Test level is because so many Kiwis play for the Aussie clubs not just the Auckland club. At the moment, French players only play for Catalans, they don't play for English clubs because English clubs would rather use the quota up on Aussies/Kiwis. If every English club had just one French player, it would improve the French Test side a lot, which in turn improves England RL. If possible we could do the same with PNG/Fijian players until France/PNG/Fiji are getting to a good standard. Problem with PNG/Fiji is they have the same rights as Aussies/Kiwis in terms of employment, but if we could just do it for the French it would be a start.
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This is nothing but a front for political correctness. Scrap this horrendous rule and let anyone play for our clubs. The winning combination always is hometown talent mixed with international super starts from the southern hemisphere as shown by Leeds over this decade.
Leeds could easily have a group of academy trained players playing for the first team but every team in rugby league must have at least a couple of export - it’s the same in all top flight ball competitive sports. Its all to do with equal opportunities and that. Its something that doesn’t get talked about openly.
Now some may be calling me racist - I couldn’t care less who plays fo Leeds as long as its an entertaining side. We can have a team of Australians for all I care. It just needs to stop this political correctness!
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "Those who are advocating brand new competitions - when will they be played and what (apart from the off-season) would they replace?'"
Pre-season and they would replace friendlies, obviously.
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| Quote: ROBINSON "Pre-season and they would replace friendlies, obviously.'"
Coaches and players already complain about the number of games played.
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| Quote: Catalancs "Coaches and players already complain about the number of games played.'"
My variation of the original suggestion was for the friendlies in the pre-season to be carry on as each coach wants but that the results go towards a merit league.
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| All the proposed ideas have thier merit. One point I keep comming across from players coaches & comentators alike is that our players play to many games as it is. Adding more games would not go down well. What I would like to see is the game run on the American football system, small area based leagues, split the whole competition into two conferences each team to play 16 matches + play offs & chalange cup. This has two advantages it ends teams fear of relagation it alows the game to expand to as big as can be supported by the games income,The players will play at most 24 matches so they would be fresher for international duty.
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| It's not a case of playing extra games, more a matter of replacing the friendlies. That said, from a conditioning point of view, I doubt a pre-season comp would be [ithat[/i much more keenly-contested than the existing friendlies, or you'd be getting injuries all over the shop.
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| Trophy presentations
First, I wish they'd be done a lot sooner after the final whistle. One interview with the man of the match straight away, then the presentations, team photo, then more interviews.
Second, an idea for the team photo and any trophy presentations that happen on pitches: Allow a certain amount of supporters (behind stewards and ropes/barriers) quite close up. Aim: to give the effect that their ‘tribe’ are all celebrating together and it would also look good in the media rather than 17 players, a trophy and a sponsor’s board surrounded but nothing much.
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| Some realistic and sensible ideas:
1.Expand the 'federation trained' category of the quota to include players from RLEF countries, which would allow clubs to take a punt on European talent without compromising their squad.
2.Move junior RL as a whole to the summer. This is being done gradually, and will take a lot of time, but is massively important for the British game.
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| Youtube
Persuade the NRL to stop having rugby league clips removed. I'm not saying let people upload entire matches (annoy the broadcast companies maybe) but RL sporting moments should be shown to as many people as possible.
Week off
Give the Super League champions a bye in round 4 of the Challenge Cup because they play an extra game with the WCC.
France
Get the French to switch their leagues to run at the same time as ours. Their amateur and junior leagues might attract more players when not competing so much with RU and football.
Their semi-pro teams could perhaps join the UK ones in the Northern Rail Cup at some point or...
The Championship and Elite champions could play-off in a [iEuropean Club Challenge[/i
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