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Quote: Eric_Cartman_is_a_saint "A past it Wellens, is still the best we have. Did you see the two try saving tackles he made against Wigan? Would the likes of Briscoe or Owen have made them? I doubt it'"


Does them most weeks mate.

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when the score got to 50 we shouted for more, up popped brad davis went over for four..... ......and its no nay never no nay never no more will we face religation...... big barrie mac.' the cas forads av been bob on' [quote="chissitt":3gx4tjo6]Pyeman I wish you would stop talking so much sense. I am in danger of becomming one of your biggest fans. :lol:[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="vastman":3gx4tjo6]Westerman looks the most promising for a long time.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Leyther_Matt":3gx4tjo6]The best proper 'rugby pub' in the country has to be the Boot Room at Cas[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Bolton_Warrior":3gx4tjo6]The only time I ever doubted going to watch Wigan was when we bare face cheated to stay in superleague[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [quote="Danril":3gx4tjo6] Last night, despite being poor and not deserving the win, we should have won.[/quote:3gx4tjo6] [img:3gx4tjo6]http://www.rlfans.com/images/sigs/castigers.gif[/img:3gx4tjo6]:32116.jpg



Quote: Serge A. Storms "The question is would he make those tackles against the faster stronger Aussies? if the last WC is anything to go by the answer is a resounding no.

For me Owen has to be selected - we will get hammered anyway so try and build a team for the future'"


Smith didnt even think he warranted a place in the train on sqaud, which i think is a poor choice myself, i'm not saying he's ready to be englands no.1 fullback, but he looks like he might be our promising long term option so why not put him in for the experience?

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Quote: tb "You might have 11 grandparents, Freaky.'"


and take your pick from about 9 different hobo's who fear being accused of fathering him.

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Gareth Widdop?

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I do understand the need for defensive 'solidity', but England will never get close to Australia by picking a full back who can tackle but adds nothing in attack. If Senior isn't playing then I'd seriously look at Leon Pryce in the centres, because the gap between Senior and anyone else is frightening.

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Quote: Frosties. "Gareth Widdop?'"


Very good call even though he's untested at the highest grade!

I think his grounding at Melbourne storm would see him flourish on the international stage.

He's just been promoted to the Melbourne first grade where he would almost certainly be the first choice full-back if it wasn't for a certain Mr Billy Slater.

There are a number of NRL clubs where Widdop would be the out and out first choice full-back.

I doubt that Tony Smith even knows about him and I further doubt that he would have the bottle to pick him for the train on squad and possibly play him in the team.

There are some very high opinions of him from the likes of Peter Sterling and Andrew Johns.

Plenty of praise from fans of all other clubs too:
forums.rugbyleague2.com/showthread.php?t=37830

forums.leagueunlimited.com/showt ... p?t=341824
Quote: Frosties. "Gareth Widdop?'"


Very good call even though he's untested at the highest grade!

I think his grounding at Melbourne storm would see him flourish on the international stage.

He's just been promoted to the Melbourne first grade where he would almost certainly be the first choice full-back if it wasn't for a certain Mr Billy Slater.

There are a number of NRL clubs where Widdop would be the out and out first choice full-back.

I doubt that Tony Smith even knows about him and I further doubt that he would have the bottle to pick him for the train on squad and possibly play him in the team.

There are some very high opinions of him from the likes of Peter Sterling and Andrew Johns.

Plenty of praise from fans of all other clubs too:
forums.rugbyleague2.com/showthread.php?t=37830

forums.leagueunlimited.com/showt ... p?t=341824


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damn right he should'nt pick him....he's not done anything yet

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Quote: The Clan "There are a number of NRL clubs where Widdop would be the out and out first choice full-back.'"

Out of curiosity, which clubs?

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Quote: Frosties. "Gareth Widdop?'"


how did he end up in the nrl? was he ever at a sl club?

i've never heard of the lad till i watched him in the u20's grand final, thought he was mom.

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CGD none really.
Its a massive step up to first grade and if England want to pick a Toyota Cup player in their squad it says they are desperate.
Plenty of young players shine in the lower grades never to make it at top level, there was a player called Shannon Walker with the Titans two years ago anyone know what happened to him?
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He's playing Queensland Cup.

Just thinking of all the fullbacks in the NRL...

Billy Slater
Jarryd Hayne
Luke Pattern
Darius Boyde
Karmichael Hunt
Matthew Bowen
Brett Stewart
William Zillman.....

I mean....I'm struggling to think of a player this kid would push aside so easily.


Best the poms have not...but not quite NRL level yet. He might get some games on the wing for the Storm next year though.

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I would suggest that Tony Smith do two things

1. Play a regular full back in the full back position (and regular player in every other spot too)

2. If a player has consistently failed to impress at international level, assume it will continue and give somebody else a chance to impress

The above points to one man in my mind and that's Shaun Briscoe

As for players from the NRL (or Toyota Cup) - maybe when they have proved themselves over a couple of seasons as Briscoe has... just a few months ago people were suggesting that Jordan Tansey was the nailed on England full back after two games for the Roosters first team!!

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To be fair only idiots were suggesting that about Jordan Tansey.

I agree though, I'd rather see a bunch of new players completely fail for England know that they are not the ones that will turn things around than see the same old faces looking back from under the goal posts as Australia scored 38 points in the first half.

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