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| Quote: t-r-i-n-i-t-y "What I don't understand from Wilkin is this has been the way since 1998, and for most of rugby league's existence. '"
Spot on. The annual RL Champions have been decided by a knock-out, end of season competition for the vast majority of the time since the game began. A bit late now to be criticising this policy.
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| Quote: SBR "The league leader's shield isn't deliberately devalued. It simply has very little value. It is a pat on the back for the team that happens to be doing the best part way through the competition.'"
In your opinion. For me the trophy which shows which team was consistantly the best throughout the course of the season has a lot of value. A team could struggle all year, be half way down the table and get lucky or there opponants might struggle with injuries/fatigue. Its possible a side could win the grand final by fluke, but you wont come top of the league unless your the best side in the competition.
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "Spot on. The annual RL Champions have been decided by a knock-out, end of season competition for the vast majority of the time since the game began. A bit late now to be criticising this policy.'"
True , ever since Leigh cheated their way to the championship in 1906 by only playing the crap teams
In my opinion of course , and obviously that of Mr Wilkin
The only reason we dont is financial
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| Quote: pyeman "In your opinion. For me the trophy which shows which team was consistantly the best throughout the course of the season has a lot of value. A team could struggle all year, be half way down the table and get lucky or there opponants might struggle with injuries/fatigue. Its possible a side could win the grand final by fluke, but you wont come top of the league unless your the best side in the competition.'"
If you can't win the biggest game of the competition you can't possibly be the best team in competition, that makes no sense. Winning that game is a far greater achievement than simply managing not to lose one or two more games out of 27 than another team.
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| Quote: SBR "If you can't win the biggest game of the competition you can't possibly be the best team in competition, that makes no sense. Winning that game is a far greater achievement than simply managing not to lose one or two more games out of 27 than another team.'"
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| Quote: Starbug "
Still not right in this day and age though , true sporting contests [ not cups involving luck of the draw ] should be decided by league position as in most world class sports
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Quite a lot of sports use playoffs and grand finals to decide the champions, it also means teams have things to play for all the way through to the last games of the domestic season and retains interest for the fans.
Playoffs and GF all the way for me.
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| Quote: christopher "Quite a lot of sports use playoffs and grand finals to decide the champions, it also means teams have things to play for all the way through to the last games of the domestic season and retains interest for the fans.
Playoffs and GF all the way for me.'"
It is for financial easons only , world class sports competitions dont use it
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| Quote: Starbug "It is for financial easons only , world class sports competitions dont use it'"
And financial reasons are a bad thing in professional sport?
which are these world class sports apart from Association Football?
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| Quote: christopher "And financial reasons are a bad thing in professional sport?
which are these world class sports apart from Association Football?'"
Which other world class sports are there ?
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| Quote: christopher "
which are these world class sports apart from Association Football?'"
Even that sport doesn't use it for representitive competitions or it's "Champions League" ......which lets teams in that aren't even champions.....they're a laughing stock!!!!!
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| Quote: Starbug "Which other world class sports are there ?'"
So what you mean is, every sport apart from Association Football (and then not all of the time) uses a playoff system?
If so what are you on about?
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| Just to clarify, some people really think that Leeds should be declared Champions because they only lost to Harlequins whilst St. Helens lost to Wakefield and Hull KR (twice)? Really? That's what makes a Champion team?
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| Quote: pyeman "In your opinion. For me the trophy which shows which team was consistantly the best throughout the course of the season has a lot of value. A team could struggle all year, be half way down the table and get lucky or there opponants might struggle with injuries/fatigue. Its possible a side could win the grand final by fluke, but you wont come top of the league unless your the best side in the competition.'"
What if the best team in the competition suffer major injuries and lose a game and lose out on the top spot because of this to. Your argument also goes against you.
The Grand Final has been a major success since it's ineption - why would anybody want to downgrade it? I don't want to see the days of the Premiership playoffs again with 40,000 max at Old Trafford.
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| Quote: Starbug "It is for financial easons only , world class sports competitions dont use it'"
English Rugby Union
NRL, AFL in Aus
NFL, MLB, well, all American Sports (and the wild card systems means a team that doesn't even win its regional division can still be the champion team)
e.t.c.
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| I don't know why we bother with the normal season, we might as well just have a grand final and put Saints and Leeds in it. Thus saving the fans of other clubs a lot of time and money.
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