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Quote: TURFEDOUT "Thought so.

It looks like he has played for Samoa then,in the Fed cup in 2006.

Its interesting that the topic starter has now gone quiet - he seemed to make an issue out of the fact he hadnt actually played for Samoa,which now appears incorrect.'"


I am here sweetcheeks

We now have the press cuttings. thanks for them. I looked at his Bulldogs profile and it said no reps honours. (maybe Oz clubs think developmental games are not proper reps games)

If he played for samoa three years ago as a tier 2 country then that may be enough. Box ticked and over he may pop.

Still rather sad that a game for a developmental Samoan side 3 years ago is enough. Not being able to get games in a NRL team that had problems in its back row last year is not an impediment.

If our game is strengthened by bring over reserve grade NRL players so be it icon_rolleyes.gif

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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: Wembley '83 "Arn't we mixing up quotas and visa/work permits here.

If he has a Samoan Passport then doesn't he have a more or less automatic right of entry under the Kolpac agreement? Whether he has played enough NRL or international games would not matter.

The fact that he would count as a quota player is a different issue altogether, isn't it? Or have I missed something.
No.

A Kolpak player still requires a work permit to enter the UK but once they have that, they have to be given the same employment rights as a EU citizen.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "I am here sweetcheeks

We now have the press cuttings. thanks for them. I looked at his Bulldogs profile and it said no reps honours. (maybe Oz clubs think developmental games are not proper reps games)

If he played for samoa three years ago as a tier 2 country then that may be enough. Box ticked and over he may pop.

Still rather sad that a game for a developmental Samoan side 3 years ago is enough. Not being able to get games in a NRL team that had problems in its back row last year is not an impediment.

If our game is strengthened by bring over reserve grade NRL players so be it I love it how you always exagerate ,3 years since he played for Samoa??
Actually bit closer to 2years isnt it??
It was you that made the big deal about him not playing for Samoa - when you can see he has.

Just let all the bitterness spill out,go on, have a good old cry.

You could have quite simply admitted you made a mistake.

But hey ho,you can now keep your fingers crossed that he doesnt get a Visa.

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still, it does pose the question of why Wakefield are willing to take a punt on an untried, untested Samoan, yet not on a young british player

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Is there really any need to sign this player. Is there not a suitable reserve/academy prospect within the club, or a Championship player.

I am all for 'big name' overseas players who bring something to SL but this guy is a complete unknown (to fans) by the sounds of it. If there is not an ideal British player at the same standard then we really should ask, why not?

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Quote: SmokeyTA "still, it does pose the question of why Wakefield are willing to take a punt on an untried, untested Samoan, yet not on a young british player'"

Unfortunately the recent RFL backtrack on the number of imports has allowed this singing, and many like it, to happen.

I’m disappointed that another import will be playing for Trinity next season but the fact is the a pack already lacking in depth suffered the loss of Moore for the season dues to illness and the youth players not already in the 25 man squad are not up to it yet. In terms of numbers he is needed. Trinity had a part time player in their 17 against Leeds.

Whether or not there are better players in the championship is another matter. The club have recruited heavily from this source in the past and many have worked out but perhaps there just was not the talent there this time.

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So transparent isn't he/she, one very nasty poster is this one mate if you rattle it's cage(s). icon_wink.gif

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Quote: vastman "So transparent isn't he/she, one very nasty poster is this one mate if you rattle it's cage(s).
Am I? Oh dear. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: SmokeyTA "still, it does pose the question of why Wakefield are willing to take a punt on an untried, untested Samoan, yet not on a young british player'"

Really? Young British players have been holding our team together for most of last season and the start of this one, still they're not up to the whino standard of youngster so you wouldn't have noticed them would you icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: vastman "So transparent isn't he/she, one very nasty poster is this one mate if you rattle it's cage(s). Aye they get their rs's smacked in their trolling attempts on our board so have to come on the VT to rally support icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Marsdengiant "

This is not anti wakey. '"


I think every post of your I've ever read has been anti Wakey.

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Quote: TURFEDOUT "I love it how you always exagerate ,3 years since he played for Samoa??
Actually bit closer to 2years isnt it??
It was you that made the big deal about him not playing for Samoa - when you can see he has.

Just let all the bitterness spill out,go on, have a good old cry.

You could have quite simply admitted you made a mistake.

But hey ho,you can now keep your fingers crossed that he doesnt get a Visa.'"


You may wish to count the months/days. Go ahead.

The Bulldogs site said no rep honours. I thanked you for the pres cutting of his game.

No bitterness sweetie. as others on here have posted: Why take a reserve grade NRL player? You have been in SL over a decade and still resort to this type of recruitment. understandable for a newly promoted team....but Wakey icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: deeHell "I think every post of your I've ever read has been anti Wakey.'"


Really? Wow. Do you have any comments on the benefit to our game of signing reserve grade NRL players?

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Quote: SmokeyTA "still, it does pose the question of why Wakefield are willing to take a punt on an untried, untested Samoan, yet not on a young british player'"


Should we all sign big fat NZ players on big money like a certain club which shouldn't need to due to having the worlds most fantastic production line of talent? I'll tell you this much I suspect Winterstien will likely bring more to SL than Greg Eastwood will should he ever arrive. Sam Obst arrived as an unknown and has been a credit to the game and I am yet to see a British player I would even come close to replacing him with.

As for playing young British players Wakefields recent record holds up rather well these days.

If you were there last friday you will have seen Pitts, Bibb, Ferguson, Atkins, Snitch, Gleeson, Blaymire and Blake play. All eight were given their SL chance at Wakefield. Whilst only five of the 17 were overseas, 2 of whom in JD and Obst have been here that long they can apply for citizenship or does that only work for you if it's a certain Saints prop as we know your hypocrisy on these issues knows no bounds.

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Quote: Marsdengiant "Am I? Oh dear.
Yep, and gutless. The sheers audacity of a Shudds fan questioning the integrity is hysterical yet strangely sad and predictable. Have you actually produced a single player of any quality in ten years of SL?

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