Ellery goes out of Dancing on Ice, Steve Mac sacked is there a coincedence I wonder?

In next week's episode ... Jason Gardner turns out to be Steve O'Connor's secret lovechild.

Ok, an outsiders opinion looking in. From an 'insider', Steve Mac has underachieved for 3 years now at Widnes, if you look on Widnes messageboards he's suffered alot of criticism practically the last 2 seasons.

Last season you couldn't really knock what we achieved after the administration we build a squad from only starting with 5 players, way behind everyone elses recruitment yet still made the playoffs. But when we got there, the supporters still felt we had a team that could compete.

Things were maybe getting stale at Widnes with McCormack in charge and even if he has done a good job, it seems to take us to that next level someone else needs to come in. I know we can't get promoted, but the idea at Widnes is to be that strong in the next 3 years the RFL can't look anywhere else.

Ste Mac was in his fourth year at Widnes. He had a new two year contract last year, so he was in his 2nd year of that.

The performances we've seen so far have been diabolical to say the least. Given the players he has available, we should be putting in far better performances. If these constant and woeful displays continued, then we would hemorrhage support. The style of RL under Steve McCormack was simply awful.

If sacking a coach after three seasons in charge is 'knee jerk' and not worthy of a franchise, then half of the current SL clubs shouldn't have got one either! l

Bet he'd wished he'd styayed as Morgans assistant now, so much for loyalty eh, its all one way.

Correct.

He didn't stick around long after the club went into administration did he?

Or was offered more money?

Many of the senior players stuck with the club. Either way loyalty works both ways, and he couldn't get away fast enough. Didn't he accept a job at Barrow and then dump them when Hull KR came in?

Quote: Pepe "Ste Mac was in his fourth year at Widnes. He had a new two year contract last year, so he was in his 2nd year of that. The performances we've seen so far have been diabolical to say the least. Given the players he has available, we should be putting in far better performances. If these constant and woeful displays continued, then we would hemorrhage support. The style of RL under Steve McCormack was simply awful. If sacking a coach after three seasons in charge is 'knee jerk' and not worthy of a franchise, then half of the current SL clubs shouldn't have got one either! l Really? news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 545268.stm Why offer him a year contract if his job was going to be under threat from the very start?

Quote: Pepe "Ste Mac was in his fourth year at Widnes. He had a new two year contract last year, so he was in his 2nd year of that. The performances we've seen so far have been diabolical to say the least. Given the players he has available, we should be putting in far better performances. If these constant and woeful displays continued, then we would hemorrhage support. The style of RL under Steve McCormack was simply awful. If sacking a coach after three seasons in charge is 'knee jerk' and not worthy of a franchise, then half of the current SL clubs shouldn't have got one either! l Really? news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_l ... 545268.stm Why offer him a year contract if his job was going to be under threat from the very start?

had the best squad in nl over the last 3 seasons, and alls he will be remember for is making good players into nobodies, killing the game of rugby league in widnes.

James Webster to take over?

Couldn't agree more.

He wasn't very popular with fans so much so that I was shocked that his contract was extended but as has been said he had done an OK job with a team made from scratch.

The Oldham game exposed some serious problems. We looked second best to a part time team from the division below and you couldn't just say they were playing badly. They didn't look big enough or fast enough to cope. This isn't acceptable when your playing full time wages and with the resources that we have in comparison.

Personally I think theres either somebody lined up or Steve O Connor realised that we would start to haemorrhage support. Season ticket sales are down about 10% and this could be to do with franchising and/or the credit crunch but it could also be down to Steve McCormick.

It was a good move before it got too late.

Nice guy but a loser when it really mattered. As illustrated by four successive GF defeats with 'Haven and Widnes.

Amazed he lasted so long after under-achieving with an outstanding squad of players at Widnes, frankly. After all Salford didn't keep him very long.

So, the Northern Rail Cup gave him his finest hour (2007 win) and worst moment in charge of Widnes...who says its a 'nothing' trophy ?

Saint Helens twice, which we won one of them. Haven which we won with a miss shape team and salford where we played most of the game with a very weak, young inexperienced team.

In a final on the day any one can win it and i believe that with the experience of the last 3 years Ste can get us to the final and win it.

Personally, i am gutted with todays news because Ste knows this division inside and out and thats what it will be about in the next 3 years. To keep him on and sack him after one game is ridiculous.

Good luck Ste, you have my respect where ever you end up.