No they didnt.

Hark at you Einstein!

the upkeep at BV is surely not that much And of course there will be all the staff offices / shop / additional training facilities + additional payments to the host stadium if the team want to train on the main pitch. then there are new stationary costs and the host stadium will take the bulk of pitchside and ground advertising.

You make a good point Turfedout..the additional costs will be far higher...well done!

That article says promises to upgrade facilities or move to a new facility!

It doesnt say promised to move to Newmarket,in fact Newmarket wasnt even on the horizon when the last round of licensing was done.
Oakwell would be an upgrade of facilties.

The same as Celtic promised to enhance their current facilities -- they have done this by moving to Wrexham.

I have just put these two RFL points together...





Off that Wakefield had put 100% into a new stadium... Oakwell would not be that nor is it mentioned as a possibility!

Newmarket isnt mentioned either.

Are you suggesting you have to stick to exactly what was in the original report?

Get real.

The new stadium that was alluded to in the report was Thornes Park and it was knocked back weeks after the licenses were awarded

The whole idea was that the clubs promised enhanced facilities,if the clubs deliver enhanced facilities how can the RFL complain?

Celtic made commitments as below,they now have enhanced facilities,but not via the route originally indicated.

CELTIC CRUSADERS
Whilst well maintained, the ground is limited and old fashioned but there is a commitment to immediately enhance the current facilities. In the medium term the club recognises the need to develop a new facility and appears to be working with the local public agencies to deliver this.

I think you and I both know the RFL will ignore Crusaders move in terms of their original franchise.

All I am saying is cluns said either we will build a new ground or we will upgrade current if you move to another stadium it is different and will be hold against Wakefiled as what they 'promised' you have to remember the RFL will be looking for any excuses they can bring out to reject any club!

Quite the opposite: that is exactly the context - people constantly cite cricket as an example of promotion and relegation between professional and semi-professional leagues and they're wrong. Wrong wrong wrong. And arguments based on falsehoods annoy me.

If anybody can come up with an actual argument for the reintroduction of p&r between professional and semi-professional competitions, one that addresses the actual problems that existed with it (and as a Cas fan I'm more than familiar with), I'd be happy to look at it seriously.


But the argument that "other sports like cricket do it" when they absolutely don't gets on my goat tbh.

I agree -- The RFL will ignore anything negative surrounding Celtic or Quins.

But my original point wasIf(and thats an almighty big if),it was a short term measure because construction of new stadium was well advanced,but wouldnt be completed for start of new season,then i wouldnt see an issue.

The RFL will do whatever it pleases and the "independent" body that does the assessments of the bids,will sing to the exact tune the RFL requires.

FWIW i think Wakey are almost dead certs to be out,i also thought it was ridiculous to let Crusaders in over Widnes originally.
I think the only thing could possibly save Wakey is to be considerably further advanced with construction of a new stadium than Castleford.

I also believe that Wakey have no one but themselves to blame for the position they are now in.
I think the new stadium will happen,but i think it will come too late this time around.The big question then is could we survive outside the top flight and rebuild having our base from a new stadium and re apply in 3 years -- im not convinced we could and im also not convinced any future application would be successful.

You want promotion and relegation [iwithin[/i Super League? Bizarre.

Actually, if there were enough clubs up to the mark of being full-time professional to make a two-division professional league, I'd agree and absolutely argue for P&R.

tb, since you are such an arch-pedant I feel duty-bound to point out that, while something which annoys you may "get on" your nerves, wick, t[ii[/its and sundry other parts, it "gets" your goat.

meh.


Fair point