What you are saying then amounts basically to this

There may be a large potential target audience but some of them may need talking round and persuading or given more incentive so we may as well not bother. The rest of them require money that the club don't have in order to be made aware of the club and to be made interested. Quins can't afford to do so and so cannot do that.

So Quins have a large target audience that they have no possible means of tapping into so will never increase attendances. When we have clubs like Widnes, Halifax, Leigh, Barrow who have smaller target audiences but are able to tap into them given the profile of being in SL (or at the very least would try which is more than your club seem able to do) why should we persist in having your club in the top league barring the way for ones that would contribute a lot more. Your attitude I hope is not shared by the people who run Quins because if it is then we may as well kick them out now. If they fail so miserably to even make Londoners aware of their existence then Skolars and Storm are more important to developing the game so we wouldn't need Quins at all. Long term the top level may need a London club but that need not be Quins.

I thought London's long term strategy was pretty good:
Develop local youth players through school and club work =
Locally born and trained players playing for the first team =
Local interest.

No one wants to see a team of imports, whether they be from Australia or from the north (round ball game is different....they don't even enjoy what's on the pitch but still go)

It'll take a fair while though. Perhaps something else is needed in the short term.

They are competing against all the hundreds of other ways people can go and spend their money on entertainment, including all sports teams that people follow which have either been part of the community for decades and decades, or have been supported in the family for decades and decades.

I'm sure you could identify lots of target markets from a population of millions, but I'm equally sure you won't be able to identify a cost effective way of targetting them from a tiny marketing budget, that's the problem.

We've done ticket deals, but then our threadbare team plays the turgid rubbish we've been offering for a long time now and they don't come back, we've put together entertainment packages, but George Sampson doing backflips at half time isn't really going to put bums on seats even if the kiddies like it, we've done Antipodean theme days, but the bulk of Aussies in London think SL is a substandard competition and are too parochial to support any other club than their own even if the claim to be the world's biggest "footy" fan. In a previous I did marketing effectiveness for a major ISP, so I know how much even minor, localised, marketing/advertising costs, I doubt we can even afford to put posters on tube trains.

Basically you are stuffed then

No I'm not saying this, I'm not aware of any audience that needs talking round who we're not bothered with, and I don't know how you managed to get to that?



All of the ways of promoting the club need money to make them work, we can bring in new people on cheap deals, but then they watch a substandard team and don't come back.



We have lots of potential target markets that we cannot tap into in the short to medium term without substantial investment.



It really depends on whether you buy into the line of the RFL and more importantly Sky (the game's major backer) that having a club in London is strategically more important than another club on the M62, or a club in Cumbria, the latter is not going to significantly boost SL crowds, and neither will raise profile of RL more than a London club.'"

Without significant, sustained investment, yes we are stuffed.

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No ! Nonesense. There is another place.

It's dark.

It's quiet.

It's where the Mutants live (no, not Widnes!)

It's a place where you can thrive without sustained investment. Come join us.

Come join us in The Championship

Or you become a Championship club

Is the second option viable ?

Does a fat dog fart?

Everyone is welcome down here ................................

So its Haven then , not glowing much though are they ?

So who exactly is ' Thriving ' down here ?