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I do not believe Sky is losing interest in Rugby League. Neville Smith there is a great advocate for our game. Of course there's a lull with it being the global close season. Sky's RL viewing figures, whilst obviously nothing like for Soccer, are very good.

In my view, as this 2015 season unfolds and develops, viewers and Sky will develop an even more enhanced interest as everyone sees, hears and feels the passion and fervour exuding from their TVs as the new structure throws up some fantastic rugby matches.

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Quote: gutterfax "Wasps weren't the bait you left....quins were and you were wrong. Is it difficult for you to admit you were wrong?
By the way, if you continue to cite union then don't bother telling me to stop responding in kind....as i said before and as you ignored, magic weekend is a rouund where no team has a home game but instead us an extra round.....to include the attendances as contributing to the home averages or even collective averages would be a straight up lie......whereas the London double headers does have 62,000 and most of them for 2 games. Including magic figures would have more than doubled londons average last year Ah so you're not interested in what the actual discussion was about are you. You just want to drone on and on about a different argument that is only playing out in your head.

It's sad you've decided to become this ridiculous figure. You used to have a point behind your posts. Ah well.

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Quote: Mr Churchill "I do not believe Sky is losing interest in Rugby League. Neville Smith there is a great advocate for our game. Of course there's a lull with it being the global close season. Sky's RL viewing figures, whilst obviously nothing like for Soccer, are very good.

In my view, as this 2015 season unfolds and develops, viewers and Sky will develop an even more enhanced interest as everyone sees, hears and feels the passion and fervour exuding from their TVs as the new structure throws up some fantastic rugby matches.'"

I think we'll see a boost of "interest" from Sky when they lose the Champions League. I've heard that the new tv deal might, and I stress the word might, not be exclusive in terms of the Challenge Cup and Internationals. Which if true would be great. You'd get the big exposure of being on BBC along with Sky not ignoring the competitions all season long.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Him "Ah so you're not interested in what the actual discussion was about are you. You just want to drone on and on about a different argument that is only playing out in your head.

It's sad you've decided to become this ridiculous figure. You used to have a point behind your posts. Ah well.'"

First up. I responded to your error. I call it an error, because it isn't like you to blatantly lie to make a point, but it is a rather obvious errorFor the 2013/14 season it attracted an attendance of around 62k. In Union they count that as 62k for game 1 and 62k for game 2. They do that for both the total AP season & average attendance and also for the "home" clubs averages too. Hence Harlequins one year having an average crowd well above the capacity of the Stoop.'"

Fact is that on December 28th 2012 Harlequins attracted 74,827 to a stand alone game across the road from the Stoop and it was this game that pushed their average attendance up past the actual capacity of the Stoop. The Double header some 3 months earlier benefitted the average attendances of London Irish and London Wasps that year, with both claiming the 62,637 as their home attendance, given it was they that gave up home advantage to take part in it.
That season, the Aviva claimed an total attendance of 1,721,729 over 135 games....if you remove the 62,637 and the second game from this, then the average for their season is 12,381 for stand alone games only.
You assertion that RL should count Magic weekend attendances as home game attendances is hardly in the same league really, given it would treble the average for London Broncos 2014 season to 3,756 icon_lol.gif
I am all for massaging figures if it is done well, but simply claiming 145,356 attended day 1 and another 84,639 on day 2 would leave the game open to ridicule in the press........given the record attendance at the Ethiad is 48,000 icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif
Secondly, the point behind my posts on here remains the same. That RL is a far superior product to any other team sport I can think of, but is probably the worst administrated professional sport I have even known. And that includes in Australia, where the main reason they managed to achieve a massive TV deal is because of a pointless ing comp between the Aussie media and an imaginary "code war" with the AFL....and even with their mega bucks deal, 12 of the 16 are still financial basket cases.
Because I respond to inane comparisons with Union, which regardless of its stodgy and fractious style on the pitch, is a global mammoth beside league, you feel the need to "pity what I have become"? Get a grip.......even the most ardent Rugby League zealot would sell a kidney to have 25% of the intelligence displayed at the RFU/IRB at red hall.

As for the topic under discussion, Sky use RL as a filler. That may well change in the future, if they need to replace some content that has been lost to another broadcaster, but whilst our main competition is basically 11 teams from 1 northern enclave and a token french outfit, is shown on Pay TV with highlights shown at odd times nationally and continues to let the broadcast partner lead it around by the nose, then the game will receive the exposure it deserves.

I can't be sure, but I suspect that the NZ part of the NRL deal included a massive amount of free exposure for the club, because not only do Sky promote the out of the NRL here......the Warriors run TV adverts for their games promoting ticket sales and memberships. No way we are paying for these ads......it's the sort of thing the RFL should have asked for when they sold the family silver for a pittance.

Lastly....on the topic of getting what we deserve. As RL fans, we automatically look for news about our sport and it sometimes can feel like we don't get the attention or exposure we deserve. In reality, we get a pretty fair amount of exposure for the size and reach of the sport.

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I think I posted on the first page of this thread thinking it wouldn't stretch to two.
Wondering why we are now on page 16 with over 12,000 views I got curious as to why only to find the same antagonists talking about the same poop. Why can't people follow my example.

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Quote: Him "I think we'll see a boost of "interest" from Sky when they lose the Champions League. I've heard that the new tv deal might, and I stress the word might, not be exclusive in terms of the Challenge Cup and Internationals. Which if true would be great. You'd get the big exposure of being on BBC along with Sky not ignoring the competitions all season long.'"

it isn't for the CC.

It kind of is and kind of isn't with internationals because they run on a different cycle, the world cup in 2017 is the bbc but for the 3 years after its on sky and 2021 WC hasn't been sold yet obviously.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "it isn't for the CC.

It kind of is and kind of isn't with internationals because they run on a different cycle, the world cup in 2017 is the bbc but for the 3 years after its on sky and 2021 WC hasn't been sold yet obviously.'"

I hope so. It would be great to have it on both. I get the impression the BBC might only be interested in the final? Hopefully they'll show some rounds too.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: bewareshadows "Ah the small pleasures of no longer being a mod.....

The Foes list does stop endless arguements over nothing.'"

It stops nothing......it just stops you having to read them! Someone let him know this please...I suspect he won't see it otherwise icon_cool.gif

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Another bit of a "first" from the RFL with the announcement of a season launch event open to the fans in Manchester, complete with a live band and players in attendance.

Good to see them trying something innovative to build interest ahead of the new season.

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Quote: Him "I think we'll see a boost of "interest" from Sky when they lose the Champions League. I've heard that the new tv deal might, and I stress the word might, not be exclusive in terms of the Challenge Cup and Internationals. Which if true would be great. You'd get the big exposure of being on BBC along with Sky not ignoring the competitions all season long.'"


Didn't they share the CC QFs a season or so ago? From what I recall the BBC exposure wasn't too bad but Sky's side of things didn't hold up too well.

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Quote: Clearwing "Didn't they share the CC QFs a season or so ago? From what I recall the BBC exposure wasn't too bad but Sky's side of things didn't hold up too well.'"


They haven't really got into the CC yet have Sky and not always bothered showing games when they could've BUT previously they had second choice on games after the BBC and really most rounds only feature 1/2 stand out ties. From their point of view why make a big deal about or even show the 3rd best tie of the round (which won't even be that great) when you won't even get to show the semis or final?

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Quote: ThePrinter "They haven't really got into the CC yet have Sky and not always bothered showing games when they could've BUT previously they had second choice on games after the BBC and really most rounds only feature 1/2 stand out ties. '"


That was the theory, although for reasons that entirely escaped me at the time, the BBC passed over Fev v Cas which was, by most peoples' reckoning, the tie of the round.

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Quote: Clearwing "That was the theory, although for reasons that entirely escaped me at the time, the BBC passed over Fev v Cas which was, by most peoples' reckoning, the tie of the round.'"


The most puzzling and frustrating thing for me was that after showing Fev beat Cas in that game and then give us (Wigan) an almighty scare in the next round that Sky declined to show any cup ties in the years since.

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To clear up any confusion on what the BBC will / won't be showing:


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