The players were correctly disciplined but why don't they respect their coach, that answer is the most important to me.

You're asking for an answer to a question based on nothing. How do you know the players don't respect him, I've certainly not heard any of them say as such, just because you imagine that's the case doesn't make it true.

Maybe just maybe the ones that misbehaved are just big daft lads who thought they could get away with it

Chase leaves camp after not getting selected, he was dropped for something, I'm not having it that it was Chases decision to leave on the eve of a game v NZ.

We were told McIllorum was injured yet he came out on twitter saying that he didn't get picked and was fit.

Graham and Hardacker dropped and Hock sent home, Hardacker commits further indiscretion and sent home.
The fact one of those is Graham who isn't a big daft lad in fact before that was probably captain material must have alarm bells ringing somewhere?

Steve was terrible at Bulls, he's not the most articulate bloke, he was unnecessarily aggressive towards the press.

I just think this job is beyond him, he'll keep it though as it's a part time job dressed up and only out of work coaches will consider it.

Chase got dropped and allowed to go home to see his heavily pregnant wife, are you now saying chase shouldn't have been dropped?

As for tge rest you are just stating things that happened without knowing why they happened, I'll ask you what evidence have you got that the players don't respect Steve McNamara ?

Whether they respect him or not they should've followed the no booze rule. No excuses. The minute they did that they lost any credibility.

National coach is a thankless task but on the whole I think he's done an ok job. Certainly he's better than his predecessor and it was our best world cup since 1995. There's not any other candidates newly available AFIAK so let him continue.

Wait for the autobiographies

I can wait. Lots of "woe is me" and "why couldn't we have a drink to unwind after losing to Italy?"

No thanks.

So you're admitting you have no evidence then.

Also I'm not sure if be wasting my time reading an autobiography by Gareth Hock.

Listen Hock and Hardacker got exactly what they deserved but I'd have respected him more if he'd canned Graham and McIllorum too but getting rid of Graham would have been a huge decision because of his obvious talent.

Yes I'm going off a hunch to some extent but over time I know I'll be proved right, no one in contention right now will speak out, those dropped will be accused of sour grapes but there is definite unease in the camp.

Twas ever thus. There's always some dissent in the ranks. I can remember this sort of stuff going right back to the 1979 GB tour. Even ultra scary Mal Reilly had his fallouts with the likes of Hanley, Crooks, Goulding, Andy Gregory etc, read the biographies!

Even if your 'hunch' (or made up in your head as it's mor commonly known) and said players don't respect McNamara, who are the idiots in that situation? If the players can't put aside any feelings like that and actually abide to the rules set by the boss of the Mational team at the start of the WC campaign then they deserve all they get.

And again you haven't got a clue what actually happened with any of the players but are making things up yo suit your opinion of SM

We'll see in time

Well said, good to see some posters can see further than a narrow defeat to NZ and another close defeat against a rusty Australian team who hadn't had a game for weeks. This was a match that was there for the taking and realistically a win over them would have taken us to the final, but his squad/team selection meant he blew it. He's mumbled and stumbled all along the way since he got the job. His "dream partnership" of Saint Kev and Rangi, have also fumbled and stumbled along since he unleashed them onto the "stage" and he was too stubborn to admit it wasn't working, never would, and he just carried on regardless. Nothing he's done in the job has filled me with any confidence that he can take England (or any other team) forward, some poor (pathetic) performances against the exiles a few "walkover" wins over Ireland, Fiji etc coupled with a defeat against the mighty Italy are not really signs of a manager who knows what he's doing and is carrying England forward. Best for the future of England if he does the honourable thing and resigns, if not then either the powers that be get shut of him now or consign us to a few more years of "also rans" languishing behind our friends from down under.

Anyone who describes Sinfield as having "stumbled" through this World Cup removes all credibility from any other opinion they offer.

Next.