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| Hasn't Coley retired anyway?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Only if you were under the idiotic assumption that we had enough international class players to choose from - fairly obvious that. two reasons, firstly anybody who knows the game to any decent level will tell you there a many more, much more important "intangibles" which make up a game of RL than the stats tell you. Secondly, considering the higher amount of gametime coley had, how much more impressive are his stats? not very.'"
If there's a shortage of international class players then at least pick those closest to it - which would still rule out Bailey. The "intangibles" with Bailey must be huge because he is so far behind. The truth is though they barely exist and are the last desperate excuse of blinkered Leeds fans bereft of any concrete evidence of Bailey's talents. And I suppose Coley got more game time in a better team because he wasn't any good?
Its harder work and more of an achievement staying on the field grinding it out rather than making cheap shots and running off and needs recognising as such.
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| Quote: Erik the not red "If there's a shortage of international class players then at least pick those closest to it - which would still rule out Bailey. The "intangibles" with Bailey must be huge because he is so far behind. The truth is though they barely exist and are the last desperate excuse of blinkered Leeds fans bereft of any concrete evidence of Bailey's talents. And I suppose Coley got more game time in a better team because he wasn't any good?
I think the nice new super league WINNERS ring that he has. His 4th in 5 yes would argue against the point of coley being in a better team
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Erik the not red "If there's a shortage of international class players then at least pick those closest to it - which would still rule out Bailey. '" So not quite how you tried to patronise then eh? Quote: Erik the not red "The "intangibles" with Bailey must be huge because he is so far behind. The truth is though they barely exist and are the last desperate excuse of blinkered Leeds fans bereft of any concrete evidence of Bailey's talents. And I suppose Coley got more game time in a better team because he wasn't any good?
So what are these massive stats differences then? Is it that yards per run which is pretty similar? Is it missed tackles/penalties per tackle which are slightly in Baileys favour? Is it the one more run per game that Coley makes? Is it the offloads per run which is massively in Baileys favour? The tackle busts per run which is also massively in Baileys favour? Im guessing you judge your props on attacking kicks then yeah?
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| Quote: Erik the not red "If there's a shortage of international class players then at least pick those closest to it - which would still rule out Bailey. The "intangibles" with Bailey must be huge because he is so far behind. The truth is though they barely exist and are the last desperate excuse of blinkered Leeds fans bereft of any concrete evidence of Bailey's talents. And I suppose Coley got more game time in a better team because he wasn't any good?
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| Quote: mistermoo "So you're a tool too then?'"
my thoughts exactly, does that make us both tools as well?
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Erik the not red "Really? and you are relying on the fact that you have studiously ignored every other point made. Fair enough.
You havent made any other points, just the same flawed point again using different examples.
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| Bailey wont make the 17 if he does he will be on the bench Wilkin and Bailey likely not to be in the same 17 if either gets in plenty of other good players in the squad who play their postition
Bailey not as good as Morley,Peacock,Carvell etc.
Wilkin might make the bench
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| 16 pages of Wilkin v Bailey around 14 pages of content arguing the justification of Baileys behaviour and credibility of being a decent prop. Whilst Wilkin has almost being forgotten on commenting on baileys behaviour AFTER the final whistle of the match.
Can we assume Baileys antics is the acceptable norm for Bailey himself, and the RFL will always adjudge that he has a good disciplinary record. I reckon we should have a Bailey Weekend and every player behaves in the same manner, knowing that we wo'nt expect to see much rugby.
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Judder Man "16 pages of Wilkin v Bailey around 14 pages of content arguing the justification of Baileys behaviour and credibility of being a decent prop. Whilst Wilkin has almost being forgotten on commenting on baileys behaviour AFTER the final whistle of the match.
Can we assume Baileys antics is the acceptable norm for Bailey himself, and the RFL will always adjudge that he has a good disciplinary record. I reckon we should have a Bailey Weekend and every player behaves in the same manner, knowing that we wo'nt expect to see much rugby.'"
more interestingly after 16 pages we still havent got to the bottom of what Wilkin was actually bitching about.
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| according to a leeds player i spoke to this week he said " ryan doesn't help himself at times, indeed its sometimes hard to defend him but on this occasion he did nothing but celebrate and certainly never confronted anyone"
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| Lets face it. Neither of them are worth 16 words, never mind 16 pages.
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