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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Alex Mc "Does anyone know if the announcement is live on radio anywhere?'"


I don't but I was just about to ask the same thing myself.

What time is the announcement being made?

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Quote: PHIPPS "I don't but I was just about to ask the same thing myself.

What time is the announcement being made?'"


Its at 11 on SSN. Do they do a radio station?

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Alex Mc "Its at 11 on SSN. Do they do a radio station?'"



Not that I am aware of.

Surely it will be on 5 live or Talksport?

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: cocker "The Wrexham situation is appalling...these owners have put Cru into admin owing aat least £700,000 to RFL and reading the Wrexham fc forum have brought the football club to its knees!!.'"


I wrote this last night prior to the server crash -

As I understand it, and granted, only reading this from Red Passion, the WST want to buy the whole lot, ground and club. The reason is, is that their business plan does not work without them owning the ground and being able to charge the Crusaders an annual rent of around £200-£250k because they are planning to buy the club and service its huge debts to stop them being kicked out of the English Leagues (as they would have no choice but to join the Welsh FA apparently if they get kicked out).

The University want the ground and possibly have the money, but they want income from both Wrexham FC and Crusaders to make that work for them, because they will be buying the ground for around £1.5m and of course £700k of that goes to the RFL. I understand that Wrexham supporters trust only have around £500k, to date, to buy the whole lot. WST can't afford to take on the debts of the club and pay to play at the ground as well, hence the reason Crusaders are important.

This then leaves the question of Crusaders. If the Uni buys the ground, the football club manages to survive and pay rent (which is a big if it would appear), what happens to Moss and Roberts ownership of Crusaders? The rumour is Moss and Roberts only ever wanted Crusaders to prop up the ground and the football club (ironically, like everyone else does) and when they no longer own the ground or the football club, why in gods name are they going to throw loads of money at an RL because one thing is for sure, they can't even break even on average crowds below 2500 and lets remember, lots of them are not actual paying to get in!

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "I wrote this last night prior to the server crash -

As I understand it, and granted, only reading this from Red Passion, the WST want to buy the whole lot, ground and club. The reason is, is that their business plan does not work without them owning the ground and being able to charge the Crusaders an annual rent of around £200-£250k because they are planning to buy the club and service its huge debts to stop them being kicked out of the English Leagues (as they would have no choice but to join the Welsh FA apparently if they get kicked out).

The University want the ground and possibly have the money, but they want income from both Wrexham FC and Crusaders to make that work for them, because they will be buying the ground for around £1.5m and of course £700k of that goes to the RFL. I understand that Wrexham supporters trust only have around £500k, to date, to buy the whole lot. WST can't afford to take on the debts of the club and pay to play at the ground as well, hence the reason Crusaders are important.

This then leaves the question of Crusaders. If the Uni buys the ground, the football club manages to survive and pay rent (which is a big if it would appear), what happens to Moss and Roberts ownership of Crusaders? The rumour is Moss and Roberts only ever wanted Crusaders to prop up the ground and the football club (ironically, like everyone else does) and when they no longer own the ground or the football club, why in gods name are they going to throw loads of money at an RL because one thing is for sure, they can't even break even on average crowds below 2500 and lets remember, lots of them are not actual paying to get in!'"


If Wakey do get the boot (and I'm not 100% sure they will) then there will be an 'interesting' atmosphere at the Wakefield v Crusaders game this Sunday.

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: PHIPPS "If Wakey do get the boot (and I'm not 100% sure they will) then there will be an 'interesting' atmosphere at the Wakefield v Crusaders game this Sunday.'"


Yes, and I think they might be getting some t-shirts done!

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If Wakefield end up on Sky before the season end, which I doubt, I can imagine these will be popular signs in the crowd!

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A nice factual post IA but was there really the need for the digs at the end? Sub 2500? and its as easy to get free tickets to watch warrington as it is Crusaders. I believe the term you meant was 'discounted'

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Quote: Inflatable_Armadillo "I wrote this last night prior to the server crash -

As I understand it, and granted, only reading this from Red Passion, the WST want to buy the whole lot, ground and club. The reason is, is that their business plan does not work without them owning the ground and being able to charge the Crusaders an annual rent of around £200-£250k because they are planning to buy the club and service its huge debts to stop them being kicked out of the English Leagues (as they would have no choice but to join the Welsh FA apparently if they get kicked out).

The University want the ground and possibly have the money, but they want income from both Wrexham FC and Crusaders to make that work for them, because they will be buying the ground for around £1.5m and of course £700k of that goes to the RFL. I understand that Wrexham supporters trust only have around £500k, to date, to buy the whole lot. WST can't afford to take on the debts of the club and pay to play at the ground as well, hence the reason Crusaders are important.

This then leaves the question of Crusaders. If the Uni buys the ground, the football club manages to survive and pay rent (which is a big if it would appear), what happens to Moss and Roberts ownership of Crusaders? The rumour is Moss and Roberts only ever wanted Crusaders to prop up the ground and the football club (ironically, like everyone else does) and when they no longer own the ground or the football club, why in gods name are they going to throw loads of money at an RL because one thing is for sure, they can't even break even on average crowds below 2500 and lets remember, lots of them are not actual paying to get in!'"



Wrexham FC would not get kicked out by the English FA but drop down and restart at probably Unibond North Level as Merthyr Town FC did when Merthyr Tydfil went bust.

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: espanyolswan "Wrexham FC would not get kicked out by the English FA but drop down and restart at probably Unibond North Level as Merthyr Town FC did when Merthyr Tydfil went bust.'"


This came from posters on Red Passion and it was them that thought they would actual have to join the Welsh FA rather than the English FA if they went bust. But either way, you can see why they want to take over and service the debts the club has, otherwise you might as just well let it go bust and start again in the lower leagues, Welsh, English or otherwise.

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In the 'Independent' today Dave Hadfield reckoned that Wakey are a shoe-in for the boot, with the club calling a news conference after the announcement.

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[b:1swa1vwo]Change is inevitable ...except from a vending machine![/b:1swa1vwo] [quote="BillyRhino":1swa1vwo]So in best IA mode ..<.Possibley World Class, could be the greatest thing since sliced bread....am personally very excited, and confidently expect him to prove my predictions are bang on target.... Alternatively he could be rubbish> IA mode off. :wink:[/quote:1swa1vwo]:33791.jpg



Quote: Dico "A nice factual post IA but was there really the need for the digs at the end? Sub 2500? and its as easy to get free tickets to watch warrington as it is Crusaders. I believe the term you meant was 'discounted''"


Ok, I was being a little disingenuous I think their current average crowd is just above 2500, so maybe I should have said sub 3000 average instead. I understand that like Quins, free (not discounted) tickets are reasonably easy to come by, so my point was of those 3000, they are not all paying full price and therefore benefit from the income of the full 3000 people attending games.

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Crusaders' crowd is still over 3000 this year last time I heard and free tickets for any club are reasonably easy to come by if you know the right people but not bucketloads. Crusaders offer discounts which seems to offend ST holders but no more freebies than most clubs on a weekly basis

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Quote: Dico "Crusaders' crowd is still over 3000 this year last time I heard and free tickets for any club are reasonably easy to come by if you know the right people but not bucketloads. Crusaders offer discounts which seems to offend ST holders but no more freebies than most clubs on a weekly basis'"


They are a joke full stop.

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Who does deserve their place in Super league? A club that went into administration this year.

Marvellous.

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This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Hull KR 20 503 259 244 30
Wigan 19 495 258 237 30
Warrington 20 502 267 235 28
Salford 20 377 382 -5 26
St.Helens 20 501 262 239 24
Catalans 20 376 286 90 24
 
Leeds 20 371 364 7 20
Leigh 19 392 286 106 19
Huddersfield 20 350 453 -103 14
Castleford 20 336 523 -187 13
Hull FC 20 274 612 -338 6
LondonB 20 210 735 -525 4
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Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 18 626 222 404 34
Sheffield 18 510 303 207 26
Toulouse 17 516 224 292 25
Widnes 18 434 319 115 23
Bradford 18 421 321 100 22
Featherstone 18 464 375 89 18
 
Doncaster 18 338 432 -94 17
York 19 446 383 63 16
Batley 18 300 390 -90 16
Halifax 18 356 477 -121 14
Barrow 17 279 482 -203 13
Swinton 18 346 470 -124 12
Whitehaven 18 348 580 -232 12
Dewsbury 19 240 602 -362 2
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