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Backtracking noted.

lack of comprehension noted.

I see, you are correct and everyone else are wrong.
The post is there in black and white.

You chose to stick your head in the sand and ignore it.
Again.

Im not ignoring it. I stand by it. Saying Wakefield were a tinpot club and putting a petrol forecourt roof over a stand doesn’t give you the right to have a go at other clubs isnt the opposite of saying Wakefield have the potential to rival any club in SL,

You may disagree with Wakefield being described as tinpot, you may disagree that they have plenty of potential, but saying a club is tinpot and not in a position to look down on other clubs does not mean that they have no potential to be better. Saying it does mean that simply highlights a failure in comprehension.

..... anyway moving away from the tedious oneupmanship that has developed on this thread, I was under the impression that due to the make up of the community trust, we would be paying a peppercorn rent.

Sureley if the trust is being given the stadium, then the only costs would be to cover maintenance/staffing and the matchday expenditure? Obviously this is not all that cheap but surely we won't be paying anything like what is happening at Salford as I believe they are "paying back" the cost of construction?

I'm not sure any current club have the right to look down on one of the others.
The Bradford fiasco has proved that a good club can become a bad club in no time at all.

Wakefield have a long way to go but at least they are trying to improve and are improving.

Calling them tinpot implies you are looking down on them yourself so I'm not sure what point you are trying to make Smokey. Apologies if you explained that earlier, I couldn't bring myself to look through all the trail.

Blummin heck mate, no wonder some Cas fans get the wrong end of the stick. If what you suggest were the case I' be marching beside them as that would be grossly unfair. Why should we get it cheap, why should the ratepayers of WMDC subsidise WTRLFC we are a business not a charity.

Of course we are paying some of the construction cost and certainly the maintenance cost through the rent, what's wrong with that.

The deal and peppercorn rent is to benefit the Trust and thus the wider community. All we are making sure of is that we pay a fair rate, which having the trust as owners will be the case.

It's not our stadium and it has not been built for our benefit, just with us in mind as an anchor tenant.

The quote is from a different thread, where certain Wakefield fans were revelling in, and celebrating Bradfords troubles. Which I found a little silly considering Wakefields recent and current history.

That apparently, according to some, means that I have never thought Wakefield were anything. Which is blatantly not true.

Ill repeat what I have always said about Wakefield. They have huge potential, it is a large area, big population, with an RL culture and amateur hotbed. The Wildcats have been failed, for a long long long time by poor management, which left them as a small club, with relatively small attendances, a very poor ground, and a history filled with substandard overseas players, but with investment and quality management there is no reason that they cant be up there with the flagship clubs in this country and they should be aiming to make a new 12k stadium look unambitious.

it seams that who ever started this subject, were just trying to stir things up between Cas & Waky fans and some of us are biting

That's a climbdown I can live with.

When you resort to using words like 'tinpot' and describing two hundred grands worth of steel as a 'petrol forecourt roof,' you just sound daft; I'll accept that what we've done is not the Sistine Chapel, but it's exactly what the RFL told us to do and is a more than adequate temporary solution.

If/when we do move to Newmarket, I promise not to look down on you.

It isn’t though is it.

Lets be honest, it might have sufficed some criteria from the RFL but that really isn’t the point. You know as well as I do that the over-riding reason Wakefield need to move isn’t because the RFL like shiny things, its not because new stadiums look better on TV or any other of the nonsense people spout about stadiums. Its because people are actively put off by Belle Vue, it is a poor stadium, it has poor facilities, it isn’t in the most salubrious part of the world and it makes it difficult for Wakefield to attract what they need to attract. The roof they have put on might have been a hoop they had to jump through, but it isn’t going to attract the people who were put off before.

Also I don’t see why Wakefield fans, of all people, would be trying to defend the way Teddy run the club. In the short time AG has had the club he has taken some good steps and set the club up so much better, and the results have been so much better it just goes to show how ‘tinpot’ his leadership of the club was.


One step at a time eh

Why would i need a get out my fakecockneywannabeyorkshireman friend? Because 'crap before, slightly better now, could be much better' has somehow managed to be too complex or nuanced an argument for you to understand?