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| Quote: Starbug "So tell me, if you are losing, what IS your ' ' priority ' ?'" To get in a position to score whilst minimising the chance of conceding any more?
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| Quote: MjM "To get in a position to score whilst minimising the chance of conceding any more?'"
Nope, try again
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| Quote: Starbug "See what I mean, complete bollox
Is it hell - If you are 6-0 down after 20 minutes, you have different priorities and play different plays than if you are 30-12 down with 15 minutes to play.
Its all about percentage play....If you are behind with 10 minutes to go then you take more risks in attack than you would if you were behind with 30 minutes to go...Of course, the name of the game is to score, but its like a boxing bout, with certain opponents you have to soften them up, apply pressure, before actually applying the finishing touch.
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| Quote: Dita's Slot Meter "Is it hell - If you are 6-0 down after 20 minutes, you have different priorities and play different plays than if you are 30-12 down with 15 minutes to play.
Its all about percentage play....If you are behind with 10 minutes to go then you take more risks in attack than you would if you were behind with 30 minutes to go...Of course, the name of the game is to score, but its like a boxing bout, with certain opponents you have to soften them up, apply pressure, before actually applying the finishing touch.'"
Different plays yes, priorities no, yes the name of the game is to score , dont do that and you lose
Boxing is a poor analogy, it isnt a structured sport like RL
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| Quote: Starbug "Teams kick for territory/field position when they have failed to make a break/find a gap in the opposition defence, but every set starts with an attempt to score, it really is that simple'"
No. Almost every set starts with 2 or 3 'settlers', drives normally taken in by forwards, or backs if it's following a deep downfield kick. This is almost always regardless of winning or losing, and will very, very rarely change.
If, by some miracle, a player manages to bust the line and break clear on a simple drive then yes you capitalise on the opportunity. But his brief from the coach is not "do everything to score on that drive". His goal is to make yards, suck in defenders and probably to achieve a specific position on the pitch for the move to follow. If a try somehow comes along, that's a bonus.
Every team also has 'break-out' or 'red' sets which are simple, ball-up-the-jumper sets out of their own 'red zone' with the aim of nothing more than getting to the kick and putting a good chase on. Yes, if a line-break occurs you make the most of it - but the goal and priority of that set is safety and territory, not scoring.
Having said that, you can't genuinely be this clueless, you're obviously trolling.
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| Quote: Cronus "No. Almost every set starts with 2 or 3 'settlers', drives normally taken in by forwards, or backs if it's following a deep downfield kick. This is almost always regardless of winning or losing, and will very, very rarely change.
If, by some miracle, a player manages to bust the line and break clear on a simple drive then yes you capitalise on the opportunity. But his brief from the coach is not "do everything to score on that drive". His goal is to make yards, suck in defenders and probably to achieve a specific position on the pitch for the move to follow. If a try somehow comes along, that's a bonus.
Every team also has 'break-out' or 'red' sets which are simple, ball-up-the-jumper sets out of their own 'red zone' with the aim of nothing more than getting to the kick and putting a good chase on. Yes, if a line-break occurs you make the most of it - but the goal and priority of that set is safety and territory, not scoring.
Having said that, you can't genuinely be this clueless, you're obviously trolling.'"
When Clarke made his comment Huddersfield were well out of their ' red zone ' , they were close to half way, and yes sometimes it seems that teams are following a set ' script ' , something I find very strange to tell the truth
However no matter what plays teams make, the ' Priority ' is to score, and every set starts with that intention, yes that might change by the last play and completion with the best territorial advantage will be what the team will settle for, but to suggest that a team losing by 2 scores in a low scoring match should lose scoring as the priority is just
Thats right, BOLLOX
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| Quote: Starbug "When Clarke made his comment Huddersfield were well out of their ' red zone ' , they were close to half way'"
I couldn't care less what Clarke said. I'm talking about your stupid assertions on game strategy in general.
Quote: Starbug "and yes sometimes it seems that teams are following a set ' script ' , something I find very strange to tell the truth'"
So, have you ever played? If you have - and I find that unlikely - I presume you stopped at under-8s, because that's when scoring off every play is nipped in the bud.
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| Quote: Starbug "You have no opinion, fair enough I'll ignore yours then, on all the discussion, it is you that doesnt have a clue'"
Every top level coach and player would disagree with your ''opinion''.
How do you respond to that?
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| Quote: Cronus "You're funny.
So you think that scoring is not the priority of a club that is losing?
Simple, yes or no?
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| Quote: FlexWheeler "Every top level coach and player would disagree with your ''opinion''.
How do you respond to that?'"
You managed to post the complete sentance this time , what happened last time?
So is scoring the priority of a losing team, yes or no?
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| Quote: Starbug "So you think that scoring is not the priority of a club that is losing?
Simple, yes or no?'"
I answered that a couple of posts back.
So - have you ever played?
Do you think "every set starts with an attempt to score", or that the goal of some sets is safety, territory and to get to the kick?
Do you think teams make up their plays and sets on the spot, or have scripted, oft-practised sets and plays?
Do you, in fact, have a clue?
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