He leads his team around the park. Brough plays well, Huddersfield play well.

He doesn't lead. He is not a leader. He kicks well off the back of time & space created by those around him.

You use stats when it suits you but ignore them when they dont.

Who leads in 40 20s ?
How many penalties has Brough conceded compared to other halves

You started off comparing Brough to Sinfield yet Broughs stats are better.
Even then stats do not tell the whole story. Sinfield leads the Team, he is the captain, he calls the plays etc.
Any Leeds fan would tell you he is their most important player.

The same goes for Brough, he is the captain, he calls the plays, he decides whether to kick on the second tackle or the 6th. It is this decision making and kicking quality that determines to a large extent how the following set is played in attack and defence.

The problem with selectively choosing stats is that they do not tell the full picture. How many drop outs has Brough forced through his kicking ?

How many times has Brough being identified on the Boots n all stats pack as being the Giants most influential player
No selective use of stats at all. How many 40/20's has he got?

I didn't make comparisons with Sinfield.

You tell me how many drop outs he has forced. Presumably the kicks that force these are attacking kicks?

Match reviews from where?

Albert Goldthorpe Medal? Your point is.....

Boots n All stats pack?

You are hugely overplaying Brough's role & influence.

He isn't fit to lace Peacocks boots.

Let's see how good Brough is tonight. The best players stand up & do the business in the biggest games.

I think we've all got it now. You don't like Danny Brough. Tough sh*t, we do.

Yes i am looking forward to tonight.

You are awful but i like you although i have not worked out yet whether you are Mrs Peacock or Steve McNamara.

What is funny is that whether Brough, Kirmond, or Peacock get the man of steel 2013 they will not be playing in the WC for England

Sounds like a good bout of self promotion then. As you say, caused man-love for him, won him that League Express award, got him in the Dream Team and shortlisted for the Man of Steel. Impressive, much more so if, as you say, he's an idiot.

That sort of marketing genius should be at RedHall.

If only he had played as consistently as he has this season for the last couple of seasons and earned his England place prior to the alleged falling out. Sounded to me like he threw his dummy out expecting to be in the ETS rather than putting his effort into playing his way into it.

He's certainly showed everyone what he is capable of, shame it took him so long and that he wont have a cat in hell's chance of lifting the RLWC.

Personally think it could go to either but would like to see Peacock lifting it after the season he's had near the end of his career.

joined such luminaries as Paul King and Michael Smith in getting a dream team nominatio and got a man of steel shortlist but talked himself out of a place in an England World Cup squad. We need to keep him as far away as possible from the RFL the last thing we need is anymore people in red hall prepared to win the battle to lose the war.

League Express you mean. How was the MoS shortlist drawn up?

Super League website is hardly a critical balanced voice for any report is it?

Brough won't win MoS. No opposition players fear him or respect him. Prequisites he doesn't have. Plus the stats don't back him up as anything but a useful kicker.

How is a kick that forces a goal line drop out not an attacking kick? What is one of those?

From what I gather, the short list is made from players' votes and the MOS is picked from that short list by a panel.


Why isn't it? Why would it be biased?! Very strange comment!


If no opposition players fear or respect him, how come they voted him into the short list? You can't just make things up, repeat them, and then expect people to eventually believe you!

What stats prove you are a good leader or organiser?

Surely being the captain and half back of the team that finishes top is a pretty handy stat in his favour? Or does it only matter if your squad has injuries?


Not sure what they class as attacking kicks or not.
But he's kicked 6 40/20s this season according to SL site (more than any player). Dobson or Sinfield don't even feature.

I do find it funny how you were arguing Peacock breaks lines and Brough doesn't despite Brough making more breaks!

Yeah, he doesn't take on the line