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Todays big decision - chicken or lamb for tea, the RFL would probably that decision up
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We can be bold enough to make a stand and do battle for our views and beliefs. But we must strive to be mature enough not to resort to unnecessary personal attacks upon people with opposing views.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_47035.gif |
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| Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "Todays big decision - chicken or lamb for tea, the RFL would probably love that decision up'"
You can get some good rat and dog round my neck of the woods, so I've been told.
I fail to see that this is the RFL making a mess. That is making a mighty assumption!
It is also negating the responsibility of the clubs who have voted for this! |
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| Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "Todays big decision - chicken or lamb for tea, the RFL would probably love that decision up'"
Except the clubs have made the decision. It's their tea and they're the ones cooking it. |
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| Quote: Him "Except the clubs have made the decision. It's their tea and they're the ones cooking it.'"
I've opted for Chicken by the way |
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| Quote: Him "Except the clubs have made the decision. It's their tea and they're the ones cooking it.'"
Wasn't it 7 against 6? Not the biggest majority vote considering its quite a big change to the current system |
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| Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "I've opted for Chicken by the way'"
Tut tut on a Friday, it should be fish and chips. It's traditional for this country. Next you'll be voting for an 8x8x8 system. |
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| Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "Wasn't it 7 against 6? Not the biggest majority vote considering its quite a big change to the current system'"
and when you consider 2 of the 7 would have been a Hetherington block vote! |
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Quote: SmokeyTA "I still think there is something fundamentally wrong with a team being relegated despite winning more games and earning more points.
On the 2nd part, right now clubs aren't incentivised to rest players, teams may as well try and qualify however slim there chances. Now you are incentivised to rest, go easy.
On the last part I mentioned I was talking about the bottom 4 in the 2nd part of the year'"
1) Equally some people think that Wigan being crowned SL champions 2013 is fundamentally wrong as they didn't get the most points. Which is fair enough, but it's been decided that playing against the top teams in pressure situations is ranked more important, so playoffs decide it (and generate more money from games). Equally, it could be argued that, in the same way that performing against the best is more worthy than performing against all; performing badly against the worst is worse than performing badly against all. It's the same logic as a playoff system, but as you say a different focus.
2) I guess that's their prerogative to aim to stay up that way. Another option, if we are comparing like-for-like, is to go all out to get 8th and know you're safe for next year, rather than risking a lower league. I'll admit that I would be disappointed if they went your way, and I expect it will be tried, but at least this way there are must-win games towards the end again, rather than just fizzling out.
3) My apologies. Yes I agree that's a sad focus. But hey, people went to the colosseum to watch death, not winners. Who am I to judge.
I think the most important thing to take from this is that we need these guys to read this board. Warning, vulgar language.
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Quote: SmokeyTA "I still think there is something fundamentally wrong with a team being relegated despite winning more games and earning more points.
On the 2nd part, right now clubs aren't incentivised to rest players, teams may as well try and qualify however slim there chances. Now you are incentivised to rest, go easy.
On the last part I mentioned I was talking about the bottom 4 in the 2nd part of the year'"
1) Equally some people think that Wigan being crowned SL champions 2013 is fundamentally wrong as they didn't get the most points. Which is fair enough, but it's been decided that playing against the top teams in pressure situations is ranked more important, so playoffs decide it (and generate more money from games). Equally, it could be argued that, in the same way that performing against the best is more worthy than performing against all; performing badly against the worst is worse than performing badly against all. It's the same logic as a playoff system, but as you say a different focus.
2) I guess that's their prerogative to aim to stay up that way. Another option, if we are comparing like-for-like, is to go all out to get 8th and know you're safe for next year, rather than risking a lower league. I'll admit that I would be disappointed if they went your way, and I expect it will be tried, but at least this way there are must-win games towards the end again, rather than just fizzling out.
3) My apologies. Yes I agree that's a sad focus. But hey, people went to the colosseum to watch death, not winners. Who am I to judge.
I think the most important thing to take from this is that we need these guys to read this board. Warning, vulgar language.
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| Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "Wasn't it 7 against 6? Not the biggest majority vote considering its quite a big change to the current system'"
It's not really that big a change.
It's basically a 12 by 12 system. The odds of 4 teams all being relegated are close to zero. Despite people's Cynicism on here I think given a few years people will wonder what all the fuss was about. |
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| Quote: bewareshadows "You can get some good rat and dog round my neck of the woods, so I've been told.
I fail to see that this is the RFL making a mess. That is making a mighty assumption!
It is also negating the responsibility of the clubs who have voted for this!'"
and all the scenarios that this will work aren't assumptions i take it? |
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| Quote: Binosh "Well I never thought I would see the words "kipper" and execution" used in 1 post, not even one as condescending as this.
Clearly you have never played the game before.'"
Sigh, you originally stated that the bottom teams had better start to perform, otherwise they will be playing the top Championship teams.
All I’m saying is, four SL teams will have to, even if all twelve SL clubs finished on equal points!
As to not playing the game, what’s that got to do with the price of fish? |
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Fish and chips on a friday? Didn't think of that actually.
End of the 2015 season lets say the second tier of 8 are:
Widnes
Castleford
Bradford
Castleford
London
Wakefield
Leigh
Halifax
Operating on a salary cap far far less than those in superleague, would they realistically stand a chance of gaining promotion?
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "I would, championship,sides will have spent the entire season playing against inferior opposition.'"
We wont know that until we see it will we. but you just keep backing up your posts with assumptions. |
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| Quote: Viva La Vikings!! "Fish and chips on a friday? Didn't think of that actually.
End of the 2015 season lets say the second tier of 8 are
not if Castleford enter two teams 
also not sure why the team finishing top of championship 4 years in a row isn't there
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Damn I wish I had your name. I didn't even want this change (I'd rather have franchising done properly), but I don't like seeing poor arguments against this thing I didn't want either  |
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