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| Quote: Fully "My bad. Misread your post - apologies.
Everyone gets in players of other teams. But most clubs supplement the few they have with their own youngsters - look at Leeds and Wigan.'"
That is something we are aiming for as a long term goal. AP said in an interview the other day that he wants / the team needs to be full of England knights and England players. Hopefully in five seasons time we will all be patting the club on the back for achieving this but only time will tell.
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| Quote: Gronk! "You are aware that at the minute Cas can't do anything stadium wise because the plans are sat on somebodies desk at what is apparently Tesco, right?
But based on your posts on the last couple of pages, you probably didn't and you're really not making any sense either.'"
I generally don't make sense when people read something they didn't want to. Its most peoples way of brushing it under the carpet.
Quote: Gronk! "So a player from the 5 towns area, a player poached from Cas and one of the few players Hull have actually been able to produce from the city.'"
What is your point ?
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "And all that means he has to gob off and state how he is going to spend silly money almost daily does it?
With the greatest of respect I don't think he has properly adjusted to the difference between RL and the association game.
Daily reminders about how 'I have loads of cash' and 'I will spend silly money' makes him sound like he thinks he is billy big testicles.
Sorry.'"
Probably right. One sport knows its worth, & is run profesionally. The other is rugby league.
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| Quote: pmarrow "What evidence do you exactly want ?
Its plainly obvious that for Rangi to sign a four year deal he would want clarification on the stadium front as I would say if it wasn't for Bradford you would be probably favorites to drop out of SL next time round. They is noway a player would sign a contract without knowing if the club plans to improve on that front. Obviousley at the time of the deal Millward was coach but Rangi had not worked under him and everyone smiles for photos.
It's just that you stated it as a fact, rather than what you think, which is very different.
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| Quote: pmarrow "I just personally feel you have a hatred for him and you will let that get in the way of any judgement you make on his comments.'" Incorrect.
I was previously a City season pass holder until it became that silly money was needed just to pay for one due to the amounts needed just to survive (not AP's fault).
So I actually hold AP in high regard.
Perhaps you as an FC fan are blinded to how he sounds as he is your knight is shining armour.
Infact seeing as I hold AP in high regard I think this is far more likely don't you?
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| Quote: pmarrow "What is your point ?'"
For such a supposedly rugby mad city there's hardly any players in the league from Hull.
Where as small towns like Wigan & Cas can produce a large amount of players who are dotted around pretty much every team in the league and McRae the hypocrite with Pearson's money are going to poach these players instead of trying to produce local talent themselves.
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| Quote: nottinghamtiger "It's just that you stated it as a fact, rather than what you think, which is very different.'"
Its a small world and word of mouth gets round. I have heard things as to why Chase wants out of Cas. These are reasons I am told, however I will apologize if I stated them as fact (sometimes get on one in rant mode) because as you say they is no hard evidence to suggest these are true. I do believe the guys who told me though never being wrong thus far.
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| Quote: Irregular Hoops "Probably right. One sport knows its worth, & is run profesionally. The other is rugby league.'" Indeed.
Association football isn't corrupt to it's core at all.
That still doesn't change the fact that AP seems to think that money isn't an issue and that in itself isn't a bad thing as far as he can see.
I do wonder how far he will go though if his latest splurge doesn't bring results seeing as his track record indicates that he normally likes to run a very tight ship.
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Incorrect.
I was previously a City season pass holder until it became that silly money was needed just to pay for one due to the amounts needed just to survive (not AP's fault).
So I actually hold AP in high regard.
Perhaps you as an FC fan are blinded to how he sounds as he is your knight is shining armour.
Infact seeing as I hold AP in high regard I think this is far more likely don't you?'"
I definitley don't see him as the knight in shining armour, they is a long way to go before he can be even classed as that, I just understand after all the bad stuff going on at Hull over the past few seasons it needs a lot of positive news. AP is a smart business man and knows this, hence why he feels the constant need during a tough patch on the pitch to remind supporters of the investments and that they is money available to improve the squad. Sure it may get tiring but if it creates a buzz and gets more people to go to games then I am all for it.
If AP had appeared on SSN every day this week loving himself up I would have thought you had a point. However all interviews have being purely for local media and on the FC club website as a message to Hull FC fans. Whether you hold him in high regard or not, you probably are just jealous your club are not in a simular position at the moment to buy such players.
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| Quote: Gronk! "For such a supposedly rugby mad city there's hardly any players in the league from Hull.
Where as small towns like Wigan & Cas can produce a large amount of players who are dotted around pretty much every team in the league and McRae the hypocrite with Pearson's money are going to poach these players instead of trying to produce local talent themselves.'"
I have said our youth has being vastly under invested in the last ten seasons. We have invested this season so hopefully we can get back on track within a few seasons. Now are you Cas fans going to take a and realize this point or are you all going to have little tantrums about our youth set up and need us to continue pointing this out.
If I was bothered about getting into a big dick contest I'd name all the Hull born players, but as it don't matter I won't.
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| Quote: pmarrow "I definitley don't see him as the knight in shining armour, they is a long way to go before he can be even classed as that, I just understand after all the bad stuff going on at Hull over the past few seasons it needs a lot of positive news. AP is a smart business man and knows this, hence why he feels the constant need during a tough patch on the pitch to remind supporters of the investments and that they is money available to improve the squad. Sure it may get tiring but if it creates a buzz and gets more people to go to games then I am all for it.
If AP had appeared on SSN every day this week loving himself up I would have thought you had a point. However all interviews have being purely for local media and on the FC club website as a message to Hull FC fans. Whether you hold him in high regard or not, you probably are just jealous your club are not in a simular position at the moment to buy such players.'" Again incorrect.
I'm to long in the tooth to do jealousy over sporting teams I got past that a fair while ago.
I have my health, my wife, my kids and my family and friends and THAT is all that is really important
As a club and a fanbase HKR are where we are that is just the way it is.
Like I said as an FC fan you are not in a position to see how it looks to others.
He sounds like a billy to me.
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| Quote: Anakin Skywalker "Again incorrect.
I'm to long in the tooth to do jealousy over sporting teams I got past that a fair while ago.
We are where we are that is just the way it is.
Like I said as an FC fan you are not in a position to see how it looks to others.
He sounds like a billy to me.'"
Fair enough. He did haggle Cas down from there 350k price though, which suggest to me he isn't going to throw stupid money about if its not 100% warranted. If that wasn't the case he would have got Chase earlier in the season.
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| Quote: pmarrow "Now are you Cas fans going to take a
Unfortunately, it's the only thing we have to be proud of, and therefore will defend it to the hilt.
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| Quote: pmarrow "Fair enough. he did haggle Cas down from there 350k price though, which suggest to me he isn't going to through stupid money about. If that was the case he would have got Chase earlier in the season.'"
From what i hear he haggled down to only just under 350k, fro Cas' asking price of roughly 400k.
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| Quote: pmarrow "Fair enough. He did haggle Cas down from there 350k price though, which suggest to me he isn't going to throw stupid money about if its not 100% warranted. If that was the case he would have got Chase earlier in the season.'" Silly money is a relative term though.
The point I was making is that he is throwing money about.
I didn't mean large amounts in general but just a fair few more 'we want him so here have some cash' than normal.
I do honestly think that this splurging will stop though as it isn't in his nature to do it long term (Look at his 2 terms and City and his term at Derby as proof) He likes to run a tight ship, It's just the way the man works.
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