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| Quote: SmokeyTA "i dont think they would have much of a problem helping fun a team which is joining SL. Similarly I expect Sky would see the logic in putting a bit more in for the team coming up.'"
Ahh ok, seems like you have changed your tune then - as you posted this before?
Quote: SmokeyTA "the Lower leagues get more than their fair share of the revenue, if they got their fair share, they would get nothing,
Why on earth, would you think SL chairmen would be prepared to cut their own income from tv revenue by 20% for nothing in return?'"
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| No he only means the favoured teams, like just one team to get help. Every team playing under different, preferential rules devalues the Championship competition. How would the SL teams react if Quinns and Crusaders were given a higher salary cap and a 10 quota player limit. I think we all know the answer. It would be dependant on the 'incentives' offered for voting those rules in. No incentives and they would be up in arms, well they would be but they would probably be threatened with a reduction in funding if they made public their disquiet. I am sure all SL fans would accept this and say the attendance of 15000 for a SL GF between the two was excellent.
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| It seems that there is no question that rugby is a credible sport. While it is a rough sport, it does require personal skill and lots of physical energy. I can not imagine why people would say that it is not a credible sport. What do you guys think?
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| Quote: a.n Other "Ahh ok, seems like you have changed your tune then - as you posted this before?
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Yes, because they would now be getting something in return.
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| Quote: DemonUK "No he only means the favoured teams, like just one team to get help. Every team playing under different, preferential rules devalues the Championship competition. How would the SL teams react if Quinns and Crusaders were given a higher salary cap and a 10 quota player limit. I think we all know the answer. It would be dependant on the 'incentives' offered for voting those rules in. No incentives and they would be up in arms, well they would be but they would probably be threatened with a reduction in funding if they made public their disquiet. I am sure all SL fans would accept this and say the attendance of 15000 for a SL GF between the two was excellent.'"
what a ridiculous argument. You may also want to check the dispensation already available to Crusaders and look at the reaction.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Yes, because they would now be getting something in return.'"
What would they be getting from it whilst a team is in the CC?
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| We have to get away from the mentality that TV income, as well as other income is SL club money. It is RFL monwy and they should spend it in the most appropriate ways. Yes majority is paid to show 2 SL games a week but that doesn;t make it club money, imo.
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| Quote: a.n Other "What would they be getting from it whilst a team is in the CC?'"
It's called investing. If that team is coming into SL, it makes sense to invest in them to make sure they actually add to it when they do come up. I can see his point.
People are just trying to find fault with anything he says just because of who he is and his opinions on other things, it seems. His opinion there does not contradict the other quote.
What would be the point in SL investing in someone like Dewsbury when they are showing no real signs of ever being in that competition? A successful addition to the SL will bring in more money, so yes SL chairmen will get something back from it.
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "
People are just trying to find fault with anything he says just because of who he is and his opinions on other things, it seems. His opinion there does not contradict the other quote.
What would be the point in SL investing in someone like Dewsbury when they are showing no real signs of ever being in that competition? A successful addition to the SL will bring in more money, so yes SL chairmen will get something back from it.'"
I dont care who he is and I didnt mention that his quote contradicts the other one, i said he has changed his tune. Which he has. Do you honestly think that any SL chairmen would give up a percentage of their major revenue to help a team that isnt playing in their league yet? In an ideal world i would agree with you - but it will never ever happen.
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| Quote: a.n Other "
I dont care who he is and I didnt mention that his quote contradicts the other one, i said he has changed his tune. Which he has.'"
You've put too quotes up and said they are of differing opinions (he's "changed his tune"icon_wink.gif. That is suggesting he is contradicting (opinions that aren't consistent). They are consistent.
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Do you honestly think that any SL chairmen would give up a percentage of their major revenue to help a team that isnt playing in their league yet? In an ideal world i would agree with you - but it will never ever happen.'" '" ]
Yes, depending on how they go about doing it. It would benefit SL chairmen to have a stronger league. They'd get more money, which they could invest part of in a new team, that could add to the league, that could get them more money, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens in the near future, or even after the next contract meeting. At the end of the day, we've only just begun licensing. You couldn't invest in the team coming up before as you didn't know who they would be and how long they'd be here.
If a certain amount of the SL money was put aside to assist a new SL club (and also to assist a SL club being relegated), it would improve the quality of the competition in the long run.
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "
Yes, depending on how they go about doing it. It would benefit SL chairmen to have a stronger league. They'd get more money, which they could invest part of in a new team, that could add to the league, that could get them more money, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens in the near future, or even after the next contract meeting. At the end of the day, we've only just begun licensing. You couldn't invest in the team coming up before as you didn't know who they would be and how long they'd be here.
If a certain amount of the SL money was put aside to assist a new SL club (and also to assist a SL club being relegated), it would improve the quality of the competition in the long run.'"
So Leigh get the nod in 2015 - SL chairmen would give over part of their major income to help them out til they get into SL?
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| Quote: Wellsy13 "Quote: Wellsy13 "
I dont care who he is and I didnt mention that his quote contradicts the other one, i said he has changed his tune. Which he has.'"
You've put too quotes up and said they are of differing opinions (he's "changed his tune"icon_wink.gif. That is suggesting he is contradicting (opinions that aren't consistent). They are consistent.
Quote: Wellsy13 "
Do you honestly think that any SL chairmen would give up a percentage of their major revenue to help a team that isnt playing in their league yet? In an ideal world i would agree with you - but it will never ever happen.'" '"
Yes, depending on how they go about doing it. It would benefit SL chairmen to have a stronger league. They'd get more money, which they could invest part of in a new team, that could add to the league, that could get them more money, etc. I wouldn't be surprised if it happens in the near future, or even after the next contract meeting. At the end of the day, we've only just begun licensing. You couldn't invest in the team coming up before as you didn't know who they would be and how long they'd be here.
If a certain amount of the SL money was put aside to assist a new SL club ( and also to assist a SL club being relegated), it would improve the quality of the competition in the long run.'" ]
Now you are having a laugh
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| Quote: a.n Other "
So Leigh get the nod in 2015 - SL chairmen would give over part of their major income to help them out til they get into SL?'" No. To help them prepare for SL.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "Quote: SmokeyTA "
So Leigh get the nod in 2015 - SL chairmen would give over part of their major income to help them out til they get into SL?'" No. To help them prepare for SL.'"
90 % of the preparation to enter SL is to become full time with regards playing and coaching staff , can you explain how this would not impact unfairly upon the other clubs in the Championship and adversly affect the competitiveness we currently have ?
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| Quote: Starbug "Quote: Starbug "Quote: Starbug "
So Leigh get the nod in 2015 - SL chairmen would give over part of their major income to help them out til they get into SL?'" No. To help them prepare for SL.'"
90 % of the preparation to enter SL is to become full time with regards playing and coaching staff , can you explain how this would not impact unfairly upon the other clubs in the Championship and adversly affect the competitiveness we currently have ?'"
Please don't Smokey
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