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how has thomas form been?
is he adapting to the new game yet.
or is he a failure?
how many minutes does he average?
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| Quote: Cronus "Must admit it would be very funny to see Alfie give the crowd the old tongue-in-cheek blowjob action in reply. ![]()
And you get the feeling those giving it, wouldn't be able to take it back in that case. For the want of a better phrase!
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I reckon some clubs have a lower standard of moron following them than others.
Mind you they are so dumb they don't even realise just how thick they really are.
They see stupidity as a prize asset because their standard of success is hanging to the coat tails of others and saying "we" a lot.
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| Quote: dally messenger "if he cant handle a bit of critisism from away fans hes not fit for RL.
RL players are tough, they play with pain
if a bit of name calling hurts him, go and play a different sport'"
Are you really trying to call it criticism. Do you know the difference between abuse and criticism or are you trying to be obtuse? |
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| Quote: Traffic "Are you really trying to call it criticism. Do you know the difference between abuse and criticism or are you trying to be obtuse?'"
abuse huh?
poor guy, im sure when he came out he expected everyone to pat him on the back |
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| Quote: dally messenger "abuse huh?
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So what would you call it then? Or has the fact a gay man is playing League spoilt your idealistic little world of how RL should be i.e. only played by tough men and if they can't take whatever abuse neanderthal fans feel like hurling at them they shouldn't take to the pitch. And yes he should get a pat on the back as it then shows up small minded people for who they really are i.e. you
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| Quote: Traffic "So what would you call it then? Or has the fact a gay man is playing League spoilt your idealistic little world of how RL should be i.e. only played by tough men and if they can't take whatever abuse neanderthal fans feel like hurling at them they shouldn't take to the pitch. And yes he should get a pat on the back as it then shows up small minded people for who they really are i.e. you'"
high profile person admits hes gay
high profile persons plays a competitive game with passionate fans
said fans point out that he is indeed gay
said person said hes hurt at this
shock horror.
yeah, when i think of RL players, i dont expect them to get "hurt" at this stuff
if he keeps up this attitude he wont be making it in league |
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| Quote: Traffic "Are you really trying to call it criticism. Do you know the difference between abuse and criticism or are you trying to be obtuse?'"
Dally is some sort of fifth columnist for RU . It is the only explanation i can find for many of his posts. he is just trying to make RL and RL supporters look bad. |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: Scanners "I don't agree some are worse than others. I'd suggest it's simply that some are more of a cause celebre than others.'" then you're an idiot. There is no other way of explaining it. If you think its petty political correctness to know the difference between mild insults and offensive behaviour then you lack either integrity or empathy
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If a heterosexual player had been called gay and suggestions made that he took it up the bum, there wouldn't have been an utterance about it.'" There should be.
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I think you are overplaying the issue in order to try and take the high ground. Homophobia as you call it isn't any bigger a problem, in terms of numbers of instances or in society overall than kids being picked on because of an aspect their appearance.
'" And i think you are underplaying the issue to try and pretend that your own ignorance isnt real. If you really dont think that homophobia is a problem in this world then a you should really just have a cursory glance at the internet news sites
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As I've said if Thomas had a real problem with what was said, why hasn't he done something about it? There are plenty of channels for him to proceed with a complaint.'" because it isnt Thomas's place to act as arbiter of what is offensive and what isnt for all gay people. They arent all the same, and whilst Thomas wasnt offended there were almost certainly other gay people or friends of gay people who could have been. The fact Thomas was a strong enough person to rise above the bigots doesnt mean we should just accept the behaviour
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People need to see this for what it was, a bit of ribbing. What are you going to do if players rip the mickey out of him, which they will inevitably do?
Storm in a teacup. it's done it's been noted, move on and stop being so bloody high and mighty.'" like throwing bananas at black players is just a bit of ribbing, like monkey chants is just taking the mickey. That must also be perfectly acceptable, after all there is no hierarchy of offence and anyone finding such behaviour unacceptable should get of their high horse, apparently
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Meaningless to express frustration? That's a really poor cop out. If that's the case aren't the fans who chant these things as ignorant as those you are chastising for ribbing Thomas? Resorting to foul language and abuse is exactly the same ignorance as you say was directed at Thomas, but you somehow seem to think one is worse than the other.
Rank hypocrisy.'"
no, it isnt the same. When you are shouting w@nker at somebody, you are simply expressing your frustration, you arent really picking on them because they masturbate. You arent differentiating them because their lifestyle choice includes masturbation. In fact the dictionary recognises this, look it up you will see.
When you call somebody a faggot, you are picking on them because of a choice they have made in how they live their life. You are abusing something intrinsic about them. If you cant tell the difference between them, i not only pity you but the people around you |
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[quote="bUsTiNyAbALLs":9q9d2t35]Do not converse with me you filthy minded deviant.[/quote:9q9d2t35]
[quote="vastman":9q9d2t35]My rage isn't impotent luv, I'm frothing at the mouth actually.[/quote:9q9d2t35]: |
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| Quote: TrinityIHC "You're right in one way, obviously there is a hierarchy of sorts, but explain how being called a bald/fat/thick *insert expletive here* is any different to being called a gay *insert expletive here* - why should the latter be considered any worse than the former?
Sureley they are all insulting and directed at a particular aspect of a person that stands out from the "average" persons aspects?'"
because there isnt a wide spread history of persecution and bigoted attitudes towards bald/fat/thick people. If the discrimination and persecution bald/fat/thick people endured was the same, then they insults would be treated the same.
The words (like all words) are pretty much powerless. It is the fact they are representative of widespread homophobic actions that mean it is ignorant to use them |
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Never forget my mate been thrown out of Huddersfied for constantly referring to a 'monkey' playing in the centres. His appeals that it was Michael Eager's nickname fell on deaf ears!
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| Quote: dally messenger "what thomas did isnt the RL way
he shouldve taken it on the chin ![]()
by this omission / theory RL must be soft as;
fabregas(soccer,nal, spain) played with fractured leg
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jamie roberts (RU, wales, cardiff) has played with a fractured skull
i know RL isnt soft but this just proves this dally is full of rubbish.!
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "then you're an idiot. There is no other way of explaining it. If you think its petty political correctness to know the difference between mild insults and offensive behaviour then you lack either integrity or empathy
][i[sizeYou are as hard as the Cas fans when it comes to directing abuse then? Feel free to explain where the line between mild insults and offensive behaviour actually exists in this case[/size[/i.]
There should be.
][i[sizeI look forward to reading your faux indignation as and when it's is necessary on all other matters of abuse at games. Be sure to differentiate between mild insults and abuse, giving explanations of how you arrived at those classifications[/size[/i]
And i think you are underplaying the issue to try and pretend that your own ignorance isnt real. If you really dont think that homophobia is a problem in this world then a you should really just have a cursory glance at the internet news sites.
[i][sizeI am not underplaying anything, merely sitting this massively overhyped occurence alongside issues that are given far less prominence but that exist to a far greater extent within the game and society in general.[/size[/i]
because it isnt Thomas's place to act as arbiter of what is offensive and what isnt for all gay people. They arent all the same, and whilst Thomas wasnt offended there were almost certainly other gay people or friends of gay people who could have been. The fact Thomas was a strong enough person to rise above the bigots doesnt mean we should just accept the behaviour.
[i][sizeNo one said it was his place to be an arbiter of anything but his own circumstances. There is a procedure in place and a set of guidelines laid down that he had a means of recourse through. he chose not to avail himself of this opportunity. Why then comment in the press,? You demonstrate beautifully the art of offence by proxy, especially for all those who could have been offended had they been there, but weren't so no one will know. Still if it feeds your desire to self flagellate, something has been achieved[/size[/i]
like throwing bananas at black players is just a bit of ribbing, like monkey chants is just taking the mickey. That must also be perfectly acceptable, after all there is no hierarchy of offence and anyone finding such behaviour unacceptable should get of their high horse, apparently
[i][sizeSure sign of losing an argument is to bring in irrelevant and entirely sperate issues[/size[/i]
no, it isnt the same. When you are shouting w@nker at somebody, you are simply expressing your frustration, you arent really picking on them because they masturbate. You arent differentiating them because their lifestyle choice includes masturbation. In fact the dictionary recognises this, look it up you will see.
[i][sizeWhatever motivation you claim is the reasoning, what mitigating circumstances are there because frustration doesn't wash, is it not abuse of an individual based on an alleged sexual proclivity? How do you know that the person targetted isn't offended by being called a w@nker? It's a sexual act partaken by some and not others, so how about clarifying whether those others who are either viewing in the ground or the thousands watching on TV are/aren't offended? Maybe because it's abuse you have dished out, it's OK?? Rank hypocrisy by any chance?[/size[/i]
When you call somebody a faggot, you are picking on them because of a choice they have made in how they live their life. You are abusing something intrinsic about them. If you cant tell the difference between them, i not only pity you but the people around you.
[i][sizeWho called anyone a faggot? Is it a lifestyle choice to be gay or is it pre-determined? Do people choose to masturbate or is it an intrinsic part of their own sexuality? Do people choose to be fat, ginger or cosmetically challenged?[/size[/i]
[i][sizeYou really do need to keep some sense or proportionality and consequence. Apart from the very small comment in the Sunday Times, and the comments on a couple of league forums, just exactly how big an issue has this become?[/size[/i]
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| Quote: garethtaylor15 "by this omission / theory RL must be soft as;
fabregas(soccer,nal, spain) played with fractured leg
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jamie roberts (RU, wales, cardiff) has played with a fractured skull
i know RL isnt soft but this just proves this dally is full of rubbish.!'"
hey im just saying this guy is too soft for league
sure he was tough enough for international RU at the highest level but club level RL is something else
if he doesnt toughen up hell just be a laughing stock |
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