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Onwards and upwards - LTID:



Quote: EastHullUTR "I bet sky are looking at our game realising how weak it currently is... Robert Elstone will be laughed out of the negotiations if he wants anything near the current level. The issues are much deeper than structure! Games on the bare bones of it's Ar$e'"


Presumably the main negotiating point will be viewing figures - does anyone know how they stack up compared to previous??

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Quote: ColD "Who actually negotiates the deal, the RFL is SL
The Championship & League 1 seem to have handed their negotiating over to the RFL lock stock & barrel. SLE have retained their options but let the RFL negotiate for them last time out.

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Quote: ColD "Who actually negotiates the deal, the RFL is SL
It’s a good question. It has been the RFL. It’s one of those things where I assume that SL saw Elstone having a leading role, but I don’t know what the situation is now. I suspect people better placed than me are uncertain too.

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[b:3w2ur1db]Superleague Titles[/b:3w2ur1db] Warrington Wolfs - 0 Wakefield Trinity - 0 Leigh Centurions - 0 [quote="Budgiezilla":3w2ur1db]Surely it can only be a player from Catalans. Probably the best RL side I have ever witnessed in this season's comp.[/quote:3w2ur1db]:



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Micheal Carter on Twitter is threatening to hold back the development of Wakefield’s young players, by stopping dual reg next year, if a certain Championship club doesn’t vote the way he wants. Classy.'"


Absolutely disgusting

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Micheal Carter on Twitter is threatening to hold back the development of Wakefield’s young players, by stopping dual reg next year, if a certain Championship club doesn’t vote the way he wants. Classy.'"


Hopefully Mr Campbell will tell him that Wakefield can't train at Feath should Wakefield not vote the way he wants........

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If the super league get their way I hope and it will be 1 up and 1 down does that mean that say a team in the championship win and they have a crap ground they will still be promoted or do they stick to what it used to be and then what happens

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Expect a break-away if things go pear shaped

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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: ColD "Presumably the main negotiating point will be viewing figures - does anyone know how they stack up compared to previous??'"


It will come down to various issues, but this EGM isn't addressing the biggest one of them all - the appeal of the RL audience to advertisers. That's what Sky cares about, and what determines how much we're worth to them. Not one comment from any of the 11 SL chairmen seems to talk about addressing that issue - in fact, their comments have tended to talk about doing the opposite.

Instead of talking about how we grow and diversify, they seem more interested in fighting over and protecting what is, in the context of modern elite professional sports, a piddling amount of money. And then people wonder why we have a perception issue.

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Quote: bramleyrhino "It will come down to various issues, but this EGM isn't addressing the biggest one of them all - the appeal of the RL audience to advertisers. That's what Sky cares about, and what determines how much we're worth to them. Not one comment from any of the 11 SL chairmen seems to talk about addressing that issue - in fact, their comments have tended to talk about doing the opposite.

Instead of talking about how we grow and diversify, they seem more interested in fighting over and protecting what is, in the context of modern elite professional sports, a piddling amount of money. And then people wonder why we have a perception issue.'"


i just cannot possible see why sky would support loop fixture, puts proven that crowds and tv audience drop for loop fixtures, surely sky would want best audience and cameras on full grounds. if they want to attract advertises advertises will want Leeds Wigan 20k crowd saints wigan 25k all playing each other home away, not hull v Huddersfield playing a 3rd time and getting 6-7k a Kc stadium.

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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Quote: rollin thunder "i just cannot possible see why sky would support loop fixture, puts proven that crowds and tv audience drop for loop fixtures, surely sky would want best audience and cameras on full grounds. if they want to attract advertises advertises will want Leeds Wigan 20k crowd saints wigan 25k all playing each other home away, not hull v Huddersfield playing a 3rd time and getting 6-7k a Kc stadium.'"


What Sky want is content that appeals to hard-to-reach ABC1 audiences in and around major urban centres. How well RL content does that will determine how much we are worth to Sky.

But somehow I can't imagine that's on the agenda at today's meeting, or any other meeting for the foreseeable, given the comments from some club chairman in recent months.

Let's be honest, addressing the actual problems facing this sport sounds too much like hard work.

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[quote="Frank Zappa":1sacjrvf]Some scientists claim that hydrogen, because it is so plentiful, is the basic building block of the universe. I dispute that. I say there is more stupidity than hydrogen, and that is the basic building block of the universe.[/quote:1sacjrvf] [quote="The_Enforcer":1sacjrvf]Most idiotic post ever goes to Grimmy..... The way to restart should be an arm wrestle between a designated player from each side.[/quote:1sacjrvf]:



Quote: bramleyrhino "It will come down to various issues, but this EGM isn't addressing the biggest one of them all - the appeal of the RL audience to advertisers. That's what Sky cares about, and what determines how much we're worth to them. Not one comment from any of the 11 SL chairmen seems to talk about addressing that issue - in fact, their comments have tended to talk about doing the opposite.

Instead of talking about how we grow and diversify, they seem more interested in fighting over and protecting what is, in the context of modern elite professional sports, a piddling amount of money. And then people wonder why we have a perception issue.'"

Yep, we have completely shown our hand to Sky as well by making that top bracket £40m. Not even the premise that they could get more this time. We should be going to sky and saying "We're going up to 14 teams. Instead of Widnes, you will have Toronto, Tolouse and London. Give us a better deal."

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Sky's interest in sport in general is on the wane. They've sold huge numbers of boxes on the back of their sport portfolio, a move BT belatedly attempted (many would say failed) to emulate. In short, sport's largely done as much as it can for them. Yes, they can still sell advertising but I'd be surprised if that market doesn't diminish too, particularly if the post-Brexit horror scenarios pan out. If clawing money from lesser clubs is the best plan the likes of Leneghan and McManus can come up with then the future of the pro game ain't rosy.

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[quote:18jc6kzm]I wish everyone would read bramleyrhino's post two or three times just to get it through some thick skulls[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote:18jc6kzm]Mr bramleyrhino speaks a lot of sense.[/quote:18jc6kzm] [quote="Jamie Jones-Buchanan":18jc6kzm]"I'd never forgive myself if a child of mine was born in Lancashire.[/quote:18jc6kzm]:1506.jpg



Reports on Twitter saying the proposals have passed.

Over to you Lenaghan, Pearson, Hudgell, McManus, Carter, Davy and the rest. You got rid of what you said was holding you back so sell outs at every game from now on, amazing commercial and sponsorship deals, packed hospitality suites and nothing less. No excuses gents.

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