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| Quote: Adamjk "I understand the new system easily enough - I also understand that it's utter rubbish and a complete gimmick in its attempt to artificially create an 'every game means something' situation (sick of hearing this phrase thrown around). Regardless, as is the same with the current setup, at some point in the season there will be games that are irrelevant in terms of whether a team ends up in the top, middle or bottom 8.
Switzerland used the same system for about 15 years - they got rid of it because attendances, tv revenue and sponsorship were suffering so much. Once they got rid, average attendances were up almost 50%.
If we were going to bring back relegation it should have either simply been one up and one down or have a playoff style game between the bottom Super League team and the top Championship team with the winner being in Super League the following season.'"
All well and good, but, top championship club salary cap - £400,000 if they get dispensation, bottom SL club - £1,800,000. Championship overseas quota - 1, SL - 5.
You can't have teams playing with different rules in the same competition, that is what needs resolving if we are to have promotion and relegation. If we can't resolve this, don't have promotion and relegation
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| Quote: freddies wig "All well and good, but, top championship club salary cap - £400,000 if they get dispensation, bottom SL club - £1,800,000. Championship overseas quota - 1, SL - 5.
You can't have teams playing with different rules in the same competition, that is what needs resolving if we are to have promotion and relegation. If we can't resolve this, don't have promotion and relegation'"
Next year Top championship clubs have £1m s.c and super league has 1.6m s.c - super league can have 7 non-fed and championship 5.
Not the same, but similar enough for it to be competitive...
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| SL is five isn't it?
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953.jpg 2015 - major missed opportunity, 2016 - stronger teams = harder task (no problem there then), 2017 - OMG What now!!!:953.jpg |
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| Quote: Starbug "So thats 2 more than we currently have
Until Mrs Koucash buys Swinton
You like me has no idea exactly how this will ' pan out ', we'll just have to wait and see'"
Well that should cost her about a weeks housekeeping
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Next year Top championship clubs have £1m s.c and super league has 1.6m s.c - super league can have 7 non-fed and championship 5.
Not the same, but similar enough for it to be competitive...'"
£1m will be more than nearly all clubs in the Championship will turn over in a year! Aside from Bradford and London, Championship clubs will only be getting £500k (1st 2014), 400k (2nd 2014) and a sliding scales £350k downwards.
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Quote: DemonUK "SL is five isn't it?'"
Haven't seen anywhere suggesting it changes?
Quote: DemonUK "
B1a maximum of 7 players who satisfy none of the definitions of Club Trained, Federation Trained or are working towards either classification.
a minimum of 7 Club Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards that classification.
the remainder being made up of Club Trained, Federation Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards either classification.
B1
www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... onal_rules
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Quote: DemonUK "SL is five isn't it?'"
Haven't seen anywhere suggesting it changes?
Quote: DemonUK "
B1a maximum of 7 players who satisfy none of the definitions of Club Trained, Federation Trained or are working towards either classification.
a minimum of 7 Club Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards that classification.
the remainder being made up of Club Trained, Federation Trained Players or Academy Juniors working towards either classification.
B1
www.therfl.co.uk/the-rfl/rules/i ... onal_rules
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9005.jpg kcab sfrawdder
Luck is a combination of preparation and opportunity
Just to avoid confusion Starbug is the username of Steven Pike
SOMEBODY SAID that it couldn’t be done
But he with a chuckle replied
That “maybe it couldn’t,” but he would be one
Who wouldn’t say so till he’d tried.
So he buckled right in with the trace of a grin
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| Quote: tenerifeRhino "How will it grow the brand of super league by splitting half of the "elite" division and making them play small provincial part-time clubs.
It will totally devalue the Super League name.
If we took this year as example, how do you think Salford playing championship teams will pan out...a few 3 figure results or very close too me thinks'"
Super League, Super League, Super League, Super League
Its Rugby League, not just Super League
Nobody knows how it will pan out
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| Quote: Magic Superbeetle "Next year Top championship clubs have £1m s.c and super league has 1.6m s.c - super league can have 7 non-fed and championship 5.
Not the same, but similar enough for it to be competitive...'"
SL 1.825 million plus up to 100k England squad allowance
825,000 is a significant difference plus overseas signings difference.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
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| What I like about the middle 8 is that it addresses the inherent flaw with straight P&R, ie. the assumption that the top of the lower division are better than the bottom of the higher division and thus deserve the place more. For Championship teams to be elevated above bottom SL sides they must demonstrate it on the field in the new system.
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| Quote: TheElectricGlidingWarrior "What I like about the middle 8 is that it addresses the inherent flaw with straight P&R, ie. the assumption that the top of the lower division are better than the bottom of the higher division and thus deserve the place more. For Championship teams to be elevated above bottom SL sides they must demonstrate it on the field in the new system.'"
There has never been that assumption. It is clear from when we did have p&r and the promoted team had to sign at least half a new team just to have any hope of being competitive that this isn't the case.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
[url=http://twitter.com/#!/theegw:1th0f7ap]@TheEGW[/url:1th0f7ap]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsnX1esHN2wkEC1FxcO2TCg:1th0f7ap]YouTube Channel[/url:1th0f7ap]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44920.png |
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| Quote: JB Down Under "There has never been that assumption. It is clear from when we did have p&r and the promoted team had to sign at least half a new team just to have any hope of being competitive that this isn't the case.'"
Promoting one team and relegating another who have never played each other demonstrates the assumption within the system. Having to sign half a new team just to be competitive demonstrates that it's a flawed assumption.
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| I very mch doubt p&r ever had anything to do with believing that the lower division club must be stronger than the top division club, certainly not in the SL era.
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44920_1327005775.png [quote="Harrigan":1th0f7ap]Wigan are the most structured team I have ever seen in this country.[/quote:1th0f7ap]
[quote="NickyKiss":1th0f7ap]As a fan Wane makes you want to run through a brick wall so you can only imagine how he makes the players feel![/quote:1th0f7ap]
[url=http://twitter.com/#!/theegw:1th0f7ap]@TheEGW[/url:1th0f7ap]
[url=https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsnX1esHN2wkEC1FxcO2TCg:1th0f7ap]YouTube Channel[/url:1th0f7ap]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_44920.png |
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| Quote: JB Down Under "I very mch doubt p&r ever had anything to do with believing that the lower division club must be stronger than the top division club, certainly not in the SL era.'"
I'm not sure you've understood my point tbh. I'm not saying anything about what people believe.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "I very mch doubt p&r ever had anything to do with believing that the lower division club must be stronger than the top division club, certainly not in the SL era.'"
No, promotion was a reward for finishing top of the second tier and an opportunity for the promoted club to ply it's trade at a higher level.
Being the sport of RL, this is not enough and we will soon have perpetual qualification for the top end of the Championship and lower end of Super League.
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| Quote: JB Down Under "SL 1.825 million plus up to 100k England squad allowance
825,000 is a significant difference plus overseas signings difference.'"
But once again, will the team in last in SL actually be spending that 1,825,000
As some late season signings by Saints has shown. Even the top side has not been spending up to the cap limit.
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