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The camera angle suggesting a miss is not in-line, it's offset and gives a skewed and unreliable view.

The better view clearly shows a good DG.

The refs have to up their game.

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Quote: dboy "The camera angle suggesting a miss is not in-line, it's offset and gives a skewed and unreliable view.

The better view clearly shows a good DG.

The refs have to up their game.'"

Or players their accuracy?

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Quote: Leaguefan "Or players their accuracy?'"


Yes. Players should never make mistakes, give penalties or commit foulplay, so the refs have nothing to call on. d040.gif

A member for 13 years, 8k posts and i've yet to read one this isn't complete dog turd.

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Did you get rid of all the voices in your head? Do you now miss them and the things that they said?:



Quote: bren2k "When it happens to a big club, it gets 13 pages; when it happens to us, nobody gives a toss.

At risk of enraging Huddersfield fans, I repeat what has been said to me; "It evens itself out over a season - get over it."

More sensibly - it really is time that the officials were made significantly more accountable for their actions; the lack of such is creating arrogance, complacency and contempt for both players and fans of the game.'"

Whoops!!!

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Quote: Leaguefan "Or players their accuracy?'"


aye, well he had four shots to get his eye in. Walsh needed one.

DG would be better employed looking at the shambles in claret and gold today as to why they lost

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Quote: bren2k "When it happens to a big club, it gets 13 pages; when it happens to us, nobody gives a toss.

At risk of enraging Huddersfield fans, I repeat what has been said to me; "It evens itself out over a season - get over it."

More sensibly - it really is time that the officials were made significantly more accountable for their actions; the lack of such is creating arrogance, complacency and contempt for both players and fans of the game.'"


Can't wait for the second half of the season that icon_lol.gif

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Quote: brearley84 "Bentham should be stood down for a game or two for todays decisions'"


Really!
I know people are upset about the manner of the loss but I thought Bentham had a good game today

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Quote: The Avenger "Really!
I know people are upset about the manner of the loss but I thought Bentham had a good game today'"


the only thing I thought he did wrong was the pen where lewis retaliated.

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Quote: marvwoodburn "the only thing I thought he did wrong was the pen where lewis retaliated.'"


Linesman tells Betham that Jermaine would not let go and penalty for lying on was given. Saints had made a half break and Jermaine held down for far too long. People push at the play the ball atleast 10 times a game.

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Quote: LFC Saint "Linesman tells Betham that Jermaine would not let go and penalty for lying on was given. Saints had made a half break and Jermaine held down for far too long. People push at the play the ball atleast 10 times a game.'"

It wasn't Jermaine but never mind.
Not like that they don't but whatever keeps you happy.
Usually what happens in rugby league is retaliation is penalised.

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Quote: marvwoodburn "Usually what happens in rugby league is retaliation is penalised.'"


That might be what they tell the kiddies, but no it isn't.

I actually thought that after the red card Huddersfield should have had the penalty, because a few Saints players went in and had a dig even though the ref was in there dealing with it. But Saints were given the penalty and had the benefit of the Giants player sent off.

IMO Saints should have lost the penalty because of what their players did. That would cause retaliation to be treated properly, but right now most retaliation is pretty much allowed.

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Sorry for crappy pics
I'm convinced that the trajectory of the ball at no point wavers beyond the inside of the posts at any point, after it has gone past the posts maybe as the ball is gaining height for some time past the posts and the wind may have gotten hold of it..
At the very very worst/squinted back end shot it goes over the upright which is a successful goal kick is it not?
In baseball in a few grounds now they've stopped putting the pitcher's camera angle at 10-15 degree off centre due to fans 'seeing' what they thought were 'balls' (outside the hitting zone) being called as strikes by the Ump'. That's because of the false trajectory that the angle was creating to viewers at home.



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I just don't think you can tell by that camera angle. On the last picture the ball is obviously still inside the post, but it doesn't look like it has reached the goal line yet to me.

Another point that I don't think anyone has mentioned yet, is that Bentham might have prevented Hudds winning in normal time, but he didn't make them lose. Had they fronted up in defence rather than feeling sorry for themselves and crying to the ref then Saints wouldn't have got into drop goal range themselves.

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Quote: wiganermike "Ignore the part about wanting a Hudds win then (a minor point anyway), but you are definitely in the group which wants to discount the camera angle from behind Brough because it suggests that the attempt was wide and thus contradicts your opinion (you labelled it the weakest of angles). You cannot pick and choose which angles to use and which to ignore because they don't support your opinion. You have to use all the evidence presented and draw conclusions based upon all of it. This incident was, no matter how much you wish to protest against it, a 50/50 decision with conflicting evidence sufficient to support either side of the argument but with no evidence to conclusively prove either that it was successful or that it missed. You only think that Bentham needs to be "held accountable" because you don't agree with his decision. Half the evidence suggests you were right, half the evidence suggests he was right. Nothing is there to prove it either way.'"

You seem to be saying that both camera angles have equal weighting. They don't. One is straight, the other is skewed. You must take that into consideration when assessing what they purport to show.

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Quote: Mr Dog "The reaction of the players suggested it was good - they were on their way back for the KO before PB ruled it out...'"


I actually thought that Brough's premature celebrations, before the ball had reached the posts, didn't do himself any favours. It had that look of a player trying to convince the ref. You often see it when players try to convince the ref that they've grounded the ball correctly when they know they haven't.

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