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| Quote: Worzel "They should NOT be in SL until they have at least [icapital [/iof £3million per year to manage the club. This should be for all SL clubs.'"
Capital is not the issue, it's [iincome[/i. If you start with £10m capital but make a trading loss of £2m every year you are just in the David Hughes situation, and basic arithmetic shows where that takes you. Clubs don't necessarily need to be highly profitable, but break-even , ideally a small surplus, is what most clubs aspire to.
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| Quote: Asgardian13 " Clubs don't necessarily need to be highly profitable, but break-even , ideally a small surplus, is what most clubs aspire to.[/]
EXACTLY.
But £10 million in, £10 million out is better than £1 million in, £1 million out.
The trick/skill for RL club directors is achieving it.
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| As a London Crusaders fan, I wasn't happy at becoming a Bronco, I wasn't over-the-moon at being gifted a SL spot as it was clearly going to cause resentment, since then, apart from the one Wembley appearance and the WCC victory against Canberra, theres not been a lot to smile about.
Attendances have been allowed to dwindle back to not much more than in the Crusaders days and once again we are Nomads.
Maybe Barnet will be the answer, maybe it won't, I just don't know but after 22 years of following I'm just about ready to give up!
Ofcourse being allowed to stay in SL with a Stadia that just about holds 6k, is no doubt gonna cause' further resentment, Keighley, Fev', 'Haven immediately spring to mind (No promotion cause yer ground ain't big enough).
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| Quote: CrusaderPete "As a London Crusaders fan, I wasn't happy at becoming a Bronco, I wasn't over-the-moon at being gifted a SL spot as it was clearly going to cause resentment, since then, apart from the one Wembley appearance and the WCC victory against Canberra, theres not been a lot to smile about.
Attendances have been allowed to dwindle back to not much more than in the Crusaders days and once again we are Nomads.
Maybe Barnet will be the answer, maybe it won't, I just don't know but after 22 years of following I'm just about ready to give up!
Ofcourse being allowed to stay in SL with a Stadia that just about holds 6k, is no doubt gonna cause' further resentment, Keighley, Fev', 'Haven immediately spring to mind (No promotion cause yer ground ain't big enough).'"
I'm sure there is resentment from some quarters, but I do think that for the majority of SL fans, if there is any bad feeling it's mostly disappointment. Disappointment that the club could not progress from a promising start. The whole ground thing for me is far less of an issue than the drop off in fans. If London where pulling in 5-7k I doubt many would talk about them at all.
Lets be fair, London never merged to escape relegation, never broke the cap, have not been in administration (although have sailed close to the wind), never lost a Franchise, never been relegated.
I do wish London well, but I want them to do well, not to have to be seen as unviable constantly moving, with no real base.
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| Quote: bewareshadows "Lets be fair, London never merged to escape relegation, never broke the cap, have not been in administration (although have sailed close to the wind), never lost a Franchise, never been relegated.'"
2005 was a "dallasesque" dream then was it ....we went under but then Ian Lenagan steps out of the shower and it was all a dream?
Londons problems as they stand are entirely of their own making. Yes, I would have preferred a centrally funded model for expansion but as that didn't happen, then quite simply, a business plan should have been put in place to grow the club. Instead, a megalomaniac owner has flushed millions after million of pounds down the drain and when the public had the cheek not to turn up when he announced KO times, has decided that this is his last year.
London, depending on relegation arrangements being confirmed in January, will be a championship club in 2015 or 2016 and have only themselves to blame.
All I can really think about that is "What a waste"
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| Quote: bewareshadows "I'm sure there is resentment from some quarters, but I do think that for the majority of SL fans, if there is any bad feeling it's mostly disappointment. Disappointment that the club could not progress from a promising start. The whole ground thing for me is far less of an issue than the drop off in fans. If London where pulling in 5-7k I doubt many would talk about them at all.
Lets be fair, London never merged to escape relegation, never broke the cap, have not been in administration (although have sailed close to the wind), never lost a Franchise, never been relegated.
I do wish London well, but I want them to do well, not to have to be seen as unviable constantly moving, with no real base.'"
What I really mean though 'shadows, is London should have been left to "evolve". We had a club emerge outa the defunct carcass of Fulham RL. We gre from around 600 or so diehards from Fulham to around 1200 Crusaders (I know I was one of those noobs). Then we get 'bought' by Brisbane and suddenly Sky TV are demanding a 'London' club in the new Superleague.
You can't make Bread until you've properly prepared the dough, well ye' can, but it comes out crap!
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| Yay, they finally updated the website to essentially tell us there'll be an update in January!
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| Quote: CrusaderPete "Yay, they finally updated the website to essentially tell us there'll be an update in January!'"
Well like all RL clubs, I wish you the best financially and fanwise so long as you all finish one place behind us and one ahead of Wigan.
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