The last 3 years was for experimentation. He has has had 3 years to work out his best team, and still seems fairly clueless about what to do with his main pivots at halfback and hooker.

Roby, Burrow, McIllorum and Sinfield have all had a go at hooker in different combinations and rotations over the 5 games. Had we actually won on Saturday I don't believe that McNamara knows who he would play there in the final. He probably wouldn't play Burrow, so back to McIllorum starting and Roby on the bench again.

The Chase/Widdop debate has been done to death, but Saturday finally proved that McNamara's use of Chase for the past 3 years has been a waste of time and effort, and a wasted opportunity for Widdop to get properly embedded in the team.

To be fair Widdop was injured last year at international time and the year before Chase had just won MOS

You are looking at it too black and white, Widdop was fantastic on Saturday that doesn't automatically mean he should have been first choice in 2011 and 2012 he was injured.

I would certainly keep banana cake for the next year.
Make a decision on next years results and performances.

Fwiw is like both McNamara and Sinfield to give it one more crack at the 4N

The point is that McNamara didn't know, until it was too late, that Widdop was a better choice than Chase. He shouldn't be using the World Cup semi final to experiment.

Even he didn't know before the start of the competition, we had games against Ireland, Fiji and France to experiment in.

Same with going with Roby and Burrow in the semi final; which was the only combination of the potential hookers that he hadn't used in the previous 5 games.

Tbf that attitude is taught from being 15, not when they reach international level!

The point is he did know, he wanted Chase but it didn't work out so he changed it when it mattered, basically he's damned if he does damned if he doesn't with some people on here.

Widdop had only just come back from a very nasty injury, how do you know how he was fairing after the Uastralia game?

McNamara made a very good and brave decision in changing his halfback before the biggest game of the tournament and for 79 minutes and 40 seconds it worked

Really? He's a very poor loser and would have been talking about the rugby gods going after SBW or something last weekend.

Get rid, if the players respected him then there wouldn't have been the early discipline problems, plus the problems every time a player isn't selected they show their and want to leave. They don't respect him, they think his opinion beneath them and for that reason he can't command any authority.

His selection is baffling, he doesn't rate the current MoS, the same man shortlisted with SBW and GI, the same man who made Scotland a level higher than anyone expected.

Then there's the whole Ferres, fringe player that turns out to be one of our better players.

Losing against Italy, Exiles.

Guy isn't good enough, what would Wayne Bennett have done with the pool of players he had at his disposal?

You criticise him for this, yet the player he picked ahead of him had an outstanding tournament and was close to, if not, MoM in almost all England games.

Surely he should be praised for that decision considering the result of it and the pressure he was under to go the other way?

Respect is a two way thing, the players who went out boozing despite team orders are the ones who deserve no respect, McNamara dealt with those players correctly.

As for bringing up Brough again... No where has McNamara said he doesn't rate Brough in fact it was him that ask Brough to make hself available to England, what McNamara said was he only wanted players that were commited 100% to playing for England, Brough clearly did not fit that criteria.

The players were correctly disciplined but why don't they respect their coach, that answer is the most important to me.

You're asking for an answer to a question based on nothing. How do you know the players don't respect him, I've certainly not heard any of them say as such, just because you imagine that's the case doesn't make it true.

Maybe just maybe the ones that misbehaved are just big daft lads who thought they could get away with it

Chase leaves camp after not getting selected, he was dropped for something, I'm not having it that it was Chases decision to leave on the eve of a game v NZ.

We were told McIllorum was injured yet he came out on twitter saying that he didn't get picked and was fit.

Graham and Hardacker dropped and Hock sent home, Hardacker commits further indiscretion and sent home.
The fact one of those is Graham who isn't a big daft lad in fact before that was probably captain material must have alarm bells ringing somewhere?

Steve was terrible at Bulls, he's not the most articulate bloke, he was unnecessarily aggressive towards the press.

I just think this job is beyond him, he'll keep it though as it's a part time job dressed up and only out of work coaches will consider it.

Chase got dropped and allowed to go home to see his heavily pregnant wife, are you now saying chase shouldn't have been dropped?

As for tge rest you are just stating things that happened without knowing why they happened, I'll ask you what evidence have you got that the players don't respect Steve McNamara ?