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Quote: Wadski "Please furnish us with the facts. What happened between Brough and McNamara? Why did Brough "throw his toys out of the pram"?'"

I don’t know why Brough did it. He is an idiot is the most likely reason.

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Quote: BiffasBoys "I quite clearly stated Brough was not the type of half who took the line on. I said he's a second phase type player who relies on a platform.

Rangi Chase isn't a forward. Look at his carry stats compared to Brough. Takes the line on and looks to make breaks.

Take the pack from in front of Brough & he's anonymous. Chase won MoS for being the type of line leading half that goes at defences.

You clearly have to make up things to try & win an argument.

I haven't missed out any kicks at all. A downfield kick isn't what lays the platform, it's the chase & first up tackle.

Brough has performed well. It is utterly facile to compare his performances to Peacock when considering the team he has had around him, to those of Peacock who has led a side missing it's main playmakers & kicker, plus several first 17 players for large parts of the season.

[iHonestly do those going for Brough, Hudds & Hull fans actually have any appreciation or knowledge of the game?
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Don't listen to Eddie & Stevo. look at the stats, watch the players in action 7 look at the results achieved with the teams they lead.'"


Listen Mr. Patronising, I and many other fans have probably been following Rugby League for far longer than you (me personally for over 60 years) so don't try teaching your grandma to suck eggs. You've got your opinion and we've got ours, live with it. The voting for MOS will not be affected by what you or we say.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Yet he has taken on the line many times very successfully to score or put someone through.

That's because he's playing in a one man team.

Take the pack from any half back and you'll find they'll struggle. Take the half backs from any pack and you'll see very few wins. It's a team game with different roles. Without good halves, teams don't win games. Hull had great forwards for years and won next to nothing.

You haven't missed any kicks, but then state one you missed straight away. Brilliant.
And yes it does lay a platform. The chase and first tackle will be nothing without the kick!

And again, you can't pick the MOS because one plays in an injury hit squad. It's not Brough's fault his players stayed fit!

Clearly by saying that Brough doesn't take on the line, break tackles or that good downfield kicks don't lay a platform, you haven't been watching or understand the game.

Look, you're obviously a Leeds fan, so I can understand why you'd pick Peacock. He's had a great season and is a worthy choice. But your arguments come to nothing when you trash the other player who clearly is up there as one of the best. Argue FOR Peacock, not AGAINST Brough (and if you're going to do the latter, at least don't exaggerate!)'"



Brough makes 1 clean break every 2 games. He has scored 7 tries in 27 games. Giants are 3rd on tries scored.

Got any stats on these vital kicks you say aren't recorded? Brough sits behind a pack & kicks for position, that's his game. And he kicks a few goals. Those attributes don't make him anywhere near fit to be MoS in my opinion.

Peaccock doesn't just play, he leads,inspires & gets the best out of those around him. That's why Leeds finished 3rd despite all the long term injuries. I have never seen Danny Brough produce anything that does such things. I've never seen him produce a piece of play that's lifted a crowd.

Look at what happened to Hudds when injuries hit last year, they crumbled. Where was Brough? In the pile of rubble with the rest of the team!!

Brough is up there in whose minds? Giants & a Hull fan who still love him for his goal kick at Cardiff?

Not a Leeds fan, sorry to disappoint icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: BiffasBoys "Brough makes 1 clean break every 2 games. He has scored 7 tries in 27 games. Giants are 3rd on tries scored.

Got any stats on these vital kicks you say aren't recorded? Brough sits behind a pack & kicks for position, that's his game. And he kicks a few goals. Those attributes don't make him anywhere near fit to be MoS in my opinion.

Peaccock doesn't just play, he leads,inspires & gets the best out of those around him. That's why Leeds finished 3rd despite all the long term injuries. I have never seen Danny Brough produce anything that does such things. I've never seen him produce a piece of play that's lifted a crowd.

Look at what happened to Hudds when injuries hit last year, they crumbled. Where was Brough? In the pile of rubble with the rest of the team!!

Brough is up there in whose minds? Giants & a Hull fan who still love him for his goal kick at Cardiff?

Not a Leeds fan, sorry to disappoint
Well thats just rubbish. Brough has been sensational this season and has rightly recieved the accolades for it. You're now basically saying that he shouldn't be man of steel because they had a fully fit squad. Other than lead them to the league leaders shield what else could he do? Peackock has also been fantastic this season and either would be a worthy winner.

As someone on this thread said earlier, say why peacock should win, not why Brough shouldn't.

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Quote: easthullwesty "

As someone on this thread said earlier, say why peacock should win, not why Brough shouldn't.'"



To be fair he's done both in his post.

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Quote: BiffasBoys "I quite clearly stated Brough was not the type of half who took the line on. I said he's a second phase type player who relies on a platform.

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I've read some drivel on here but that's right up there with the worst of it.

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Quote: easthullwesty "Well thats just rubbish. Brough has been sensational this season and has rightly recieved the accolades for it. You're now basically saying that he shouldn't be man of steel because they had a fully fit squad. Other than lead them to the league leaders shield what else could he do? Peackock has also been fantastic this season and either would be a worthy winner.

As someone on this thread said earlier, say why peacock should win, not why Brough shouldn't.'"


You use the word sensational to describe Brough's performances. That's where you're going wrong. Nothing backs that claim up.

1 clean break every 2 games. 7 tries. he's top goalkicker in 2013, nothing else.

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Quote: BiffasBoys "You use the word sensational to describe Brough's performances. That's where you're going wrong. Nothing backs that claim up.

1 clean break every 2 games. 7 tries. he's top goalkicker in 2013, nothing else.'"


He leads his team around the park. Brough plays well, Huddersfield play well.

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Quote: easthullwesty "He leads his team around the park. Brough plays well, Huddersfield play well.'"


He doesn't lead. He is not a leader. He kicks well off the back of time & space created by those around him.

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Quote: BiffasBoys "You use the word sensational to describe Brough's performances. That's where you're going wrong. Nothing backs that claim up.

1 clean break every 2 games. 7 tries. he's top goalkicker in 2013, nothing else.'"



You use stats when it suits you but ignore them when they dont.

Who leads in 40 20s ?
How many penalties has Brough conceded compared to other halves

You started off comparing Brough to Sinfield yet Broughs stats are better.
Even then stats do not tell the whole story. Sinfield leads the Team, he is the captain, he calls the plays etc.
Any Leeds fan would tell you he is their most important player.

The same goes for Brough, he is the captain, he calls the plays, he decides whether to kick on the second tackle or the 6th. It is this decision making and kicking quality that determines to a large extent how the following set is played in attack and defence.

The problem with selectively choosing stats is that they do not tell the full picture. How many drop outs has Brough forced through his kicking ?

How many times has Brough being identified on the Boots n all stats pack as being the Giants most influential player
No selective use of stats at all. How many 40/20's has he got?

I didn't make comparisons with Sinfield.

You tell me how many drop outs he has forced. Presumably the kicks that force these are attacking kicks?

Match reviews from where?

Albert Goldthorpe Medal? Your point is.....

Boots n All stats pack?

You are hugely overplaying Brough's role & influence.

He isn't fit to lace Peacocks boots.

Let's see how good Brough is tonight. The best players stand up & do the business in the biggest games.

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Quote: BiffasBoys "No selective use of stats at all. How many 40/20's has he got?

I didn't make comparisons with Sinfield.

You tell me how many drop outs he has forced. Presumably the kicks that force these are attacking kicks?

Match reviews from where?

Albert Goldthorpe Medal? Your point is.....

Boots n All stats pack?

You are hugely overplaying Brough's role & influence.

He isn't fit to lace Peacocks boots.

Let's see how good Brough is tonight. The best players stand up & do the business in the biggest games.'"



I think we've all got it now. You don't like Danny Brough. Tough sh*t, we do.

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