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Quote: gutterfax "yeah.....as I said before, this sudden need for cash would point to delivery not being made on various KPI's and promises. If he knew this was coming, your owner would have arranged all this before the public humiliation commenced.
Embarrass me? How?
Your club has still failed to pay it's 200k wage bill and the owner has had to re-mortgage investments to raise capital...yet I'm embarrassed?

Let's see what happens in 3 months time when the newest loan runs out....this guy doesn't strike me as a bottomless pit.

Embarrass me

missing a key fact from your "statement", our main income source, the TV money is half than all the other clubs. That is why Khan has bankrolled the club. If you halved the SKY money of ANY other professional sports club, including football, they would have to be bankrolled by their chairman. Any club with a chairman who hasn't got a bottomless pit of cash, would struggle.

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Im assuming you didnt pick up on the pi5s taking in the post and fishing for thickets. Look in the mirror stupid and shake your head.

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22/03/2013 Get LEIGH outta wigan:



To be fair to Mr khan,when he took over he did say he was going to invest 2 million + into Bradford bulls and Odsal

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "Not quite. You are embarrassing yourself, all by yourself, so we don't have to.'"

The Bulls took a short term Loan from the council we are told......around 200k. Then the 200k of wages are late being settled...the owner rides in with 900k, of which, 400k is already accounted for.
The last 3 home games at Oddslum this year feature 2 teams that bring their fans on a skateboard....the overwhelming majority of fans at those games will be made up of your 6,500 ST holders so there will be little income at the gate.....that 500k will only go so far.

On the topic of half the SKY Money.....it's not like Bradford didn't know they were a half mil down this year.......but instead of cutting their cloth accordingly, they have spent more than they could and their owner had to REACTIVELY re-mortgage other investments to give them enough cash to see out the season.

This loan was a REACTION to failings at Bradford to generate enough cash to pay the wage bill...dress it up how you like, it's not a good look for the club or the sport.

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Quote: gutterfax "The Bulls took a short term Loan from the council we are told......around 200k. Then the 200k of wages are late being settled...the owner rides in with 900k, of which, 400k is already accounted for.
The last 3 home games at Oddslum this year feature 2 teams that bring their fans on a skateboard....the overwhelming majority of fans at those games will be made up of your 6,500 ST holders so there will be little income at the gate.....that 500k will only go so far.

On the topic of half the SKY Money.....it's not like Bradford didn't know they were a half mil down this year.......but instead of cutting their cloth accordingly, they have spent more than they could and their owner had to REACTIVELY re-mortgage other investments to give them enough cash to see out the season.

This loan was a REACTION to failings at Bradford to generate enough cash to pay the wage bill...dress it up how you like, it's not a good look for the club or the sport.'"


Seriously, apart from the £200k loan from the council, the rest of your figures seem to be plucked straight out of the air.

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Seriously. What on earth is going on at the Bulls? I thought they were OK? Is it all just rumour and media negative hype?

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Quote: gutterfax "The Bulls took a short term Loan from the council we are told......around 200k. Then the 200k of wages are late being settled...the owner rides in with 900k, of which, 400k is already accounted for.
The last 3 home games at Oddslum this year feature 2 teams that bring their fans on a skateboard....the overwhelming majority of fans at those games will be made up of your 6,500 ST holders so there will be little income at the gate.....that 500k will only go so far.

On the topic of half the SKY Money.....it's not like Bradford didn't know they were a half mil down this year.......but instead of cutting their cloth accordingly, they have spent more than they could and their owner had to REACTIVELY re-mortgage other investments to give them enough cash to see out the season.

This loan was a REACTION to failings at Bradford to generate enough cash to pay the wage bill...dress it up how you like, it's not a good look for the club or the sport.'"



We have cut the cloth accordingly, we are spending no where near the cap. Look at the players we have lost, Kopczak, Jefferies, Burgess, Elima, Hargreaves, Whitehead, Crookes, Sibbitt, Ainscough, Pryce, Joseph. We do need a squad you know!

Omar took over a club that was literally days from folding. He has had to start from the bottom up. Maybe ticket sales and gate crowds weren't as high as had been hoped. Omar is plugging the gap the same way Ken Davy is at Huddersfield, David Hughes is at London and Abamovich is at Chelsea.

I agree probably not good for the sport with us in the headlines about not paying our players again, certainly won't aid the sport in getting a sponsor, but i think some people need to calm down, we're not on the verge of going bust again.

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Quote: gutterfax "...Oddslum ...'"

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Your puerile verbiage just lost you the right to be taken even remotely seriously. Goodbye.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: roofaldo2 "Seriously, apart from the £200k loan from the council, the rest of your figures seem to be plucked straight out of the air.'"


Out of the air eh....
The 200k wage bill was widely reported, rlhererl as was the 6,500 ST (rlhererl) holders and the 900k the owner has just raised from re-financing his assets rlhererl.
900k less the 200k council loan hererl

Nothing was plucked out of the air other than the business plan that has failed to deliver the expected revenues at Bradford and therefore required this 900k to be raised by the owner.

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: Ferocious Aardvark "
in other words you know I am right, but will use my calling your ground a slum to retreat... c020.gif

...this saga at Bradford isn't over...not by a long stretch.

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Quote: gutterfax "Out of the air eh....
The 200k wage bill was widely reported, rlhererl as was the 6,500 ST (rlhererl) holders and the 900k the owner has just raised from re-financing his assets rlhererl.
900k less the 200k council loan hererl

Nothing was plucked out of the air other than the business plan that has failed to deliver the expected revenues at Bradford and therefore required this 900k to be raised by the owner.'"


And what of the money OK has invested in the club prior to this amount? Have you taken that amount into consideration with your rant? I don't believe you have. Just so you know, that figure is close to £800k.

Also, that loan, like all loans won't be paid off in a single lump sum. It'll be paid of in installments.

The money is there to plug funding gaps, such as the ones you've pointed out like London and Catalan fans could turn up in a minibus and still stop to pick up a hitchhiker on the way. But the club has also put things in place to try and encourage more people to attend those games, such as an offer on groupon for cheap tickets for both games as well as offering friend for £5 for the Catalan game.

But as you point out the Sky money is about £600k light. But the investment, so far, is over £1.7 million excluding outside loans.

As much as you and others might wish for a further financial crisis at Bradford, it doesn't look like it's coming any time soon.

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Quote: "To be fair to Mr khan,when he took over he did say he was going to invest 2 million + into Bradford bulls and Odsal'"


David Hughes puts that into the Broncos each year!!

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Quote: wire quin "David Hughes puts that into the Broncos each year up to now. He's likely to pull the plug next year cos he's flogging a dead horse which has the RFL ting bricks and could explain why noone wants to play for them anymore. '"


Edited for accuracy. Incredibly (I know this is hard to believe) Bradford Bulls weren't the first club to go bust and they aren't going to be the last. People can patronise and talk about how well their club it run but irrespective of who you support your club probably has gone bust before and probably will do again at some point.

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