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| Lets get a few things straight, two divisions won't happen without Sky supporting the concept. Sky wont support it without it being sold to them, ie what will they get from the deal.
I would suggest potential benefits would be
1. More subscriptions
2. Better product due to more evenly matched games, more viewers
3. Greater crowds at the top, and bottom
4. Improved Intl product in the short term
5. Expanded sport that they control
In return we ask for no more money from the current deal, so basically if we sell the benefits correctly Sky are in a win/win situation.
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| Quote: SmokeyTA "When are you going to start telling us the facts you recognise? you said you would then seemed to list a load of opinion, most of which didnt make sense.'"
But the [ifact[/i is that the non SL clubs have been cut adrift by the SL clubs, they voted for the SL because they were told they needed to to "save the game" and since then they've been ignored.
It is a[i fact [/ithat the likes of Fax, Fev and Batley can give the lower SL clubs a game - they did so in the CC this year.
It is a [ifact[/i that Bradford are in serious trouble, Crusaders disappeared as a SL club (twice) Wakey have been in administration and London's crowds are pathetic.
If a competitive comp consisiting of two ten team divisions with P&R between them, (with provisos) plus P&R between the lower division and Championship 1 (again with provisos) could be insitigated I think given time a vibrant game would emerge.
What we have a the moment is effectively moribund. And given what's happened and what's rumoured to be about to happen change is needed.
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| Quote: major hound "But the [ifact[/i is that the non SL clubs have been cut adrift by the SL clubs, they voted for the SL because they were told they needed to to "save the game" and since then they've been ignored
It is a[i fact [/ithat the likes of Fax, Fev and Batley can give the lower SL clubs a game - they did so in the CC this year.
It is a [ifact[/i that Bradford are in serious trouble, Crusaders disappeared as a SL club (twice) Wakey have been in administration and London's crowds are pathetic.
If a competitive comp consisiting of two ten team divisions with P&R between them, (with provisos) plus P&R between the lower division and Championship 1 (again with provisos) could be insitigated I think given time a vibrant game would emerge.
What we have a the moment is effectively moribund. And given what's happened and what's rumoured to be about to happen change is needed.'"
I think you should look up what the word fact means before you try to use it again.
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| It's daft that the RFL are even looking at this when the clubs that could come up are so weak. There are no clubs bar Fax, Featherstone and Leigh who could even entertain the notion of moving into Super League and they would all be relegated after one season anyway.
What the RFL should be doing, rather than trying to grow the existing clubs (Which are mostly poorly run, have poor infrastructures and are in undesirable locations) is to try and get outside money involved in the sport. If you are a Sheikh with £50m to spend on sport, rather than buying a Premier League or Championship football side that you will then send into administration, why not invest it into Super League? You could run a successful club for 20 years on the same money you would blow on acquiring and maintaining a football club.
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| Quote: Saddened! "It's daft that the RFL are even looking at this when the clubs that could come up are so weak. There are no clubs bar Fax, Featherstone and Leigh who could even entertain the notion of moving into Super League and they would all be relegated after one season anyway.
What the RFL should be doing, rather than trying to grow the existing clubs (Which are mostly poorly run, have poor infrastructures and are in undesirable locations) is to try and get outside money involved in the sport. If you are a Sheikh with £50m to spend on sport, rather than buying a Premier League or Championship football side that you will then send into administration, why not invest it into Super League? You could run a successful club for 20 years on the same money you would blow on acquiring and maintaining a football club.'"
Win the lottery. Buy a Renault Clio instead of a Merc.
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| Quote: Saddened! "It's daft that the RFL are even looking at this when the clubs that could come up are so weak. There are no clubs bar Fax, Featherstone and Leigh who could even entertain the notion of moving into Super League and they would all be relegated after one season anyway.'"
Widnes have just about started to hold there own in SL. Fax, Fev, Leigh and I believe Sheffield all outperformed Widnes on the picth last year so why would they automatically go straight back down? One safeguard would be the kind of amensty in year 1 for promoted clubs as I outlined in my suggestion.
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| Quote: Saddened! "It's daft that the RFL are even looking at this when the clubs that could come up are so weak. There are no clubs bar Fax, Featherstone and Leigh who could even entertain the notion of moving into Super League and they would all be relegated after one season anyway.
What the RFL should be doing, rather than trying to grow the existing clubs (Which are mostly poorly run, have poor infrastructures and are in undesirable locations) is to try and get outside money involved in the sport. If you are a Sheikh with £50m to spend on sport, rather than buying a Premier League or Championship football side that you will then send into administration, why not invest it into Super League? You could run a successful club for 20 years on the same money you would blow on acquiring and maintaining a football club.'"
Thats a very valid point but in our recent discussion with Sheikh Onamaface the lack of guaranteed p&r killed the deal.
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| Quote: maurice "Thats a very valid point but in our recent discussion with Sheikh Onamaface the lack of guaranteed p&r killed the deal.'"
Interesting. When we were negotiating with Baron von moneylaundering, it was the fact that he could almost guarantee getting a team into SL by building the right club infrastructure, rather than having to depend on the lottery of a small set of playing results that made the idea so attractive to him.
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| Quote: Richie "Interesting. When we were negotiating with Baron von moneylaundering, it was the fact that he could almost guarantee getting a team into SL by building the right club infrastructure, rather than having to depend on the lottery of a small set of playing results that made the idea so attractive to him.'"
Thats quite interesting, do you think its a cultural thing between Germans and Arabs or historical, due to one having one and the other not?
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| Quote: maurice "Thats quite interesting, do you think its a cultural thing between Germans and Arabs or historical, due to one having one and the other not?'"
No.
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| Quote: littlerich "Win the lottery. Buy a Renault Clio instead of a Merc.
I don't think that's a very apt analogy. You are implying that soccer is a better sport than rugby league, when we all know that isn't the case. A better analogy would be chosing which musical group to invest in; a musically talented, hardworking indie band who write amazing music, but who won't ever be internationally famous, or some bubblegum pop, lowest common denominator e who will get lots of exposure, but might end up costing you money in the long run.
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