now i have just read the rest. put roby in the wigan team and players like finch, tommy, goulding, carmont, charnley and tomkins wouldnt be half as effective because he wouldn't give the same distribution as mcilorum. i know we will never ever agree. terry newton the first thing he did when he went from prop to hooker was learn how to pass of the floor with both hands fast and accurate.

you haven't watched wigan enough if your saying he hasn't stood out because every televised game he has been sensational he just doesn't pick up the ball and scoot all the time and he is a proper hooker not a micky mouse superleague scoot hooker.

No Danny Brough on Saturday???

How come?

Isn't it strange that when Wigan had a scooter hooker their try tally dropped, when we got Piggy to replace him we started scoring tries again. Saints replace Cunningham with a scooter and they score less tries. Coincidence, I don't think so.

What is this obsession with scooting? That hasn't been in the game at all for a couple of years since they changed the interpretation of the play the ball. Teams are allowed to slow it down so much now that it's very rare any hooker gets a decent hole the run at. Good forward play is no longer getting the rewards it should as teams just lie on and set their defense.

Possibly, just possibly, Saints scored fewer tries because we've been on the decline for the last few seasons losing players like Albert, Lyon, Sculthorpe, Cunningham, Long and not replacing them. Just a thought.

Roby is an outstanding player. He's better than McIllorum in every single aspect of the game. He's better defensively, he's got a much better engine and work rate, he's more creative, he's a better offloader, a better support player.

McIllorum is no better than Scott Moore. 110% aggression and no brain.

Mickey Mac.

He also wears his socks rolled down. Players like that shouldnt be playing for England

Tomkins
Charnley
Ablett
Atkins
Hall
Sinfield
Chase
Crabtree
Roby
Peacock
Hock
Tickle
O'Loughlin

Burrow
Mossop
Carvell
Jones-Buchanan

Jesus.

It was something I'd heard, was more a question than statement

Ablett over Goulding is the biggest joke of the year.

What a joke of a team. That man has no idea how to pick a team at all. The Exiles must be quaking in their boots.

Not a bad 18th man. Would rather have had him at stand-off.

Sinfield and JJB? Do me a favour...