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Quote: Cragganmore Kid "I'd be worried about the Tomkins / Charnley wing - great going forward, but the Aussies would have a field day with the defensive frailties that have been exposed in SL.'"
Very true. Joel commits himself too early, when he should be waiting for his opposite to commit. Doing this he very often puts Josh in a no win situation and makes him look daft. Can't see past Bridges at right centre, with Yeaman on the left. I'd pair Charnley with Bridges and Atkins with Yeaman.

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Quote: rally2001 "What's Briscoe like in the centres? Im just not sure about Yeaman because he's played international before and didn't do well IMO. England need to try new things.'"


Briscoe played in the centre as a junior, but been tried at centre in SL is definatley a winger.

Briscoe and Yeaman on the left, huge attacking force and 40 tries this season between them. Would go for Hall and Bridge on the right. Charnley, Mcgillvery, Cudjoe and Watkins all challeging.

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Quote: Dunbar "Very much agree with both point made here. The physical attributes (I would say physicality but I hate that word) of our young outside backs are miles ahead of the previous generation. I can’t remember seeing Calderwood ever break a tackle for example. Players such as Briscoe, Hall, McGilavray, Charnley, Watkins, Cudjoe, Arundel, Welham etc are all good athletes

Also, the creative spine of the team is looking better than the recent past

Tomkins at full back, a combination from Brough, Widdop and Lomax in the halves and Roby and Robinson at dummy half has a really creative and talented look about it'"


Think I would be tempted to go with Burrow over Robinson as back up 9, Burrow has been class for leeds recently.

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Difference between Burrow and Robison at 9 is Robbo lifts himself to another level for England games, and hasn't ever disappointed in an England shirt, and has more often been one of England's best players on the day.

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Quote: Code13 "Difference between Burrow and Robison at 9 is Robbo lifts himself to another level for England games, and hasn't ever disappointed in an England shirt, and has more often been one of England's best players on the day.'"

Agree with this – Robinson has done well in an England shirt and was one of the very few to have a half decent tournament last year. If you have been tried and failed at international level then you deserve to be left out – if you have been tried and stepped up then you deserve to keep your spot. I have Robinson in the second category alongside players like Westwood who have proved suited to international League

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Quote: Dunbar "Agree with this – Robinson has done well in an England shirt and was one of the very few to have a half decent tournament last year. If you have been tried and failed at international level then you deserve to be left out – if you have been tried and stepped up then you deserve to keep your spot. I have Robinson in the second category alongside players like Westwood who have proved suited to international League'"


James Roby has been by far the best hooker in SL this year and has played consistently well for 80 mins each game. He has also performed well for England and therefore think he will be the 9 for England and any others will be as cover just in case he picks up an injury

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Quote: wakey_saint "James Roby has been by far the best hooker in SL this year and has played consistently well for 80 mins each game. He has also performed well for England and therefore think he will be the 9 for England and any others will be as cover just in case he picks up an injury'"

Of course – we are talking about the Roby backup

Despite Roby being able to put in an 80 minute stint, I would personally have a player like Robinson (or Burrow) on the bench as he can mix things up a bit and spell Roby who can have two fresh spells. Also there is cover for the half back spots as well

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i still think sinfield is the best man for that job

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With regards to our centres, I'd go Atkins and Yeaman.

With regards to Joel, he WILL be the country's top centre in time but at the moment he's still learning the position. Something I'd like to see him working on is to stop running Charnley out which leads to an inside ball on a high number of shift plays on their side.

Also, I don't see the hype with regards to Cudjoe or any other Huddersfield three quarter & wing. They're the positions that have let Huddersfield down this year IMO.

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Quote: ABP' "With regards to Joel, he WILL be the country's top centre in time but at the moment he's still learning the position. Something I'd like to see him working on is to stop running Charnley out which leads to an inside ball on a high number of shift plays on their side.
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I was going to disagree with you but I saw that you put the word will in capitals so you must be right

Anyway, Joel Tomkins is 24 years old and there is nothing to indicate that his game will get significantly better than it is now. He has played out a full season in the centre and as you say he still has weaknesses in his game both in attack and defence. He hasn’t improved in that department throughout the year under the coaching of Maguire unlike Atkins (23 years old) who’s game has significantly improved this year under Smith

If we want athletic centres to take on the Southern hemisphere then Atkins and Watkins are the best bet for me

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Watkins would get torn apart out there!

It will be a choice between Atkins, Bridge and Yeaman for me.

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Quote: Dunbar " If you have been tried and failed at international level then you deserve to be left out'"


I hope that comment wasn't aimed at Burrow, given the one time he got three games in a row at international level he was man of the series in a GB win?

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Quote: Andy Gilder "I hope that comment wasn't aimed at Burrow, given the one time he got three games in a row at international level he was man of the series in a GB win?'"

It wasn’t no. I was using it to back up the point that Robinson has been tried and succeeded

I mentioned a choice of Robinson or Burrow in may post above and I would be happy with Burrow off the bench in the Four Nations, he adds some spark to the attack and is in good form but I feel that Robinson is the incumbent, did well down under last year and deserves to keep his place

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Don't know weather its been mentioned but i cant be bothered reading 10 pages, but as a Salford fan who sees Jodie Broughton play week in week out he deserves a chance the guy is a outstanding.

If Jodie was in a top 4 squad he would be first choice without a doubt he shi!ts on Atkins

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