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Quote: RooRoo "Does anyone know that? Really? I'm not disputing the fact out of hand but wouldn't the RFL be better explaing their decisions?

Only prob with that is that they, or some Halifax fans, could end up looking a bit daft.'"

The clubs won't let them. They specifically requested that the RFL release NO information on their bids - not even the summary information that was released last time around. Instead these summaries will go to the clubs who will then release as much or as little as they please.

If Fax want the information on their bid to be made public then they can go right ahead.

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Quote: Kosh "The clubs won't let them. They specifically requested that the RFL release NO information on their bids - not even the summary information that was released last time around. Instead these summaries will go to the clubs who will then release as much or as little as they please.

If Fax want the information on their bid to be made public then they can go right ahead.'"


You've seen the documents which state this?.

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Quote: j.c "You've seen the documents which state this?.'"

Yeah, I've seen the public documents which publicly state that the clubs want more secrecy. icon_rolleyes.gif

It was in the RL press months ago, and has been mentioned in tweets from RL journos. Apparently the clubs were worried by the potential impact on sponsorship if their financial performance or business plan were rated poorly. At one point they were trying to have the gradings withheld as well - we would only have been told the number of each grade and not which teams had achieved them.

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Quote: Kosh "Yeah, I've seen the public documents which publicly state that the clubs want more secrecy.
And i think Nigel Wood confirmed this on the B&A interview.

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Quote: Kosh "Yeah, I've seen the public documents which publicly state that the clubs want more secrecy.
Fair enough.

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So there is less transparency in the decision making process than in 2008 (which was sketchy at best)?

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Quote: Paul HHZ "So there is less transparency in the decision making process than in 2008 (which was sketchy at best)?'"


At the behest of the bidding clubs, yes.

Fax have had their RFL feedback, has it been published on their website yet for all to see?

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I really hope that Fax release their feedback. That way everyone can look and then make an informed decision on whethere they were had off or not by this process.

People are understandable disappointed, but they dont know that their bid wasn't a pile of poop. By the same count people dont know if it was the best.

However, if Fax choose not to release it then that would say to me the feedback is negative. The club must release it to put it all to bed. Until it does there is no argument to be had as nobody knows whether it was good or not. Pointless discussion that is dragging on

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Quote: Finsbury Wire "I really hope that Fax release their feedback. That way everyone can look and then make an informed decision on whethere they were had off or not by this process.

People are understandable disappointed, but they dont know that their bid wasn't a pile of poop. By the same count people dont know if it was the best.

However, if Fax choose not to release it then that would say to me the feedback is negative. The club must release it to put it all to bed. Until it does there is no argument to be had as nobody knows whether it was good or not. Pointless discussion that is dragging on'"


Not a cat in hell's chance of Fax releasing a "warts and all" version of the feedback they've got from the RFL IMO.

You might get edited highlights from the club, emphasising all the positive areas so they can continue to make out they were robbed.

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From the Mr Fax blog, on the Fax website (halifaxrlfc.wordpress.com/)

"The rumour mill also had us holding talks with the RFL and for once they were right. The board of directors and the RFL met and discussed the bid for a good few hours. Will all of this information be released? I’m not too sure yet. The board will continue to meet in the coming days and weeks and decide the best strategy going forward. Like all things, certain things stay in the board room to help an organisation build to stronger things."
From the Mr Fax blog, on the Fax website (halifaxrlfc.wordpress.com/)

"The rumour mill also had us holding talks with the RFL and for once they were right. The board of directors and the RFL met and discussed the bid for a good few hours. Will all of this information be released? I’m not too sure yet. The board will continue to meet in the coming days and weeks and decide the best strategy going forward. Like all things, certain things stay in the board room to help an organisation build to stronger things."


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Quote: Andy Gilder "Not a cat in hell's chance of Fax releasing a "warts and all" version of the feedback they've got from the RFL IMO.

You might get edited highlights from the club, emphasising all the positive areas so they can continue to make out they were robbed.'"

I'd they don't go public with the feedback they will have lost the respect of many Fax fans with regards to this matter. Especially after the comments our chairman made with regards to the licencing decision.

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And this is what's making me cross. For all the shouting for transparency the ones to blame aren't the RFL but the clubs.

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Problem is Fax releasing their feedback will do no good whatsoever if no other club releases there's, and that's not going to happen.

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Quote: Nat (Rugby_Aholic) "Problem is Fax releasing their feedback will do no good whatsoever if no other club releases there's, and that's not going to happen.'"


Nobody expects Fax to release commercially sensitive information as part of their feedback.

Just a summary from the club of what areas the bid was strong in, where it was weak and why would suffice.

Fax not releasing even the edited highlights of their feedback after kicking up such a fuss about the transparency of the process is a touch hypocritical IMO.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Nobody expects Fax to release commercially sensitive information as part of their feedback.

Just a summary from the club of what areas the bid was strong in, where it was weak and why would suffice.

Fax not releasing even the edited highlights of their feedback after kicking up such a fuss about the transparency of the process is a touch hypocritical IMO.'"

Completely agree.

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