Clan, please tell me how you can convince the, I'm sorry to say, idiots who believe otherwise, some who are supposedly smart people! Our board is full of conspiracies and that makes us look a joke as much as Facebook groups and talks of petitions. There are weekly threads on the attendances at Harlequins or Crusaders that make us look so bitter (talkign about counting the crowd on Saturday from the TV pictures), especially when you can't post the reality of the situation without being slagged off.

The key to my statement is the first few words, a Wakefield club lurching from disaster to crisis was not favoured by the RFL but the change of ownership, the stability of the finances and a demonstrable timeline by ultra credible individuals for the delivery of the new stadium changes everything.

And these 'ultra credible individuals' have a chance to prove they are 'ultra credible' that the change of stadium is going to happen, that the marketing plan is going to work and the club is financially secure through the franchise process. But only they can do this, and whether they do or dont do this is solely down to them and has sod all to do with Crusaders or any other club.

No that's Savilles job!

I never mentioned Crusaders except to say I think they'll remain in SL?

It isnt Savilles job to create and evidence Wakefields franchise bid. They give the RFL an opinion on certain aspects of it, but they neither prepare the bid or judge it, so im not sure what you think is Savilles Job

you have spent a whole thread here moaning about them.

Delusional!

Bye!

An individual such as Andrew Glover has the resources and the business & managerial acumen to deliver the much needed stadium for Wakefield.

He has a (potential) ready made solution with Newmarket, should that get the green light from the PI. However should the PI go against the trust and WT the government office has to suggest a suitable site as part of their refusal for the current site. Should this happen I'm sure Mr Glover could "move the plans" to the suggested site/develop his own plan (which I believe he is already doing as a contingency plan).

If you look at the amount of companies under AG's direction and their individual/combined value a project such as a community stadium may be equal/smaller than some of his large glass production facilities when you consider the value of the machinery to make the facility profitable.

If you have a proven track record of successful business ventures and a good credit rating raising £15M may not be as hard as some (Richard Wright) would have you believe.

Yes Wakefield have been mismanaged for years, who has born the brunt of this? Us the WT fans! Have we ever seriously brought the elite leagues credibility into question? No. Have we ever finished bottom of the pile? No. Granted we've never won any silver wear but we've dam well give SL it's fair share of tooth and nail performances, showing the grit and determination that makes our game great. All we want is 3 more years to carry on this fresh start!

I thought hybrids were the future? Toyota seem to be doing well.

Nah they keep breaking down and being re-called becuase they are not proper cars, not whole if you like.

I like my hybrid club, it's better than your sh*t one.

If I remember rightly the Prius recall was to do with the edging of the carmats fraying and wrapping round the brake/accelerator peddles.

Not too sure about the defects, could be two parts into one that caused problems, due to using cheap throw away parts.

They didn't take two cars and make them into one though. They took an electric motor and a petrol motor and made them work effortlessly together.

It was rlfloormatsrl that caused the mass recall. Something pretty insignificant really.

call me old fashioned roofs, but I don't think I want to trust a wakefield calculation just yet