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last post on RLFANS goodbye Thu May 26, 2011 8:46 am:



Quote: Huddersfield1895 "you believe that 4 billon people watched the last union world cup
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Quote: GutterFax "Please....proof of this figure of 30 million, I have advertisers who would like to know exactly how they have been lied to.......starting with VISA.'"


Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million.
www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html

There are other discrepancies with the irb methodology as well. The use of the phrase potential reach to mean actual or live reach and stating that the 2007 went live into 238 Countries being the most obvious.
I am surprised that a person involved with marketing doesn’t know how potential reach is guestimated. Would you/ do you put any faith in the culmulative figures? Should they include re-runs, repeats and, so Im told, snippets shown on the TV news ?.

The ruwc is getting good numbers and yet the irb feel the need to lie, so badly. Maybe you could ask your clients to find out why.

Anyhoo, it appears that Dally was quite correct to suggest the 2007 ruwc final had a television audience of just over 30 million.
Quote: GutterFax "Please....proof of this figure of 30 million, I have advertisers who would like to know exactly how they have been lied to.......starting with VISA.'"


Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million.
www.independent.co.uk/sport/gene ... 68839.html

There are other discrepancies with the irb methodology as well. The use of the phrase potential reach to mean actual or live reach and stating that the 2007 went live into 238 Countries being the most obvious.
I am surprised that a person involved with marketing doesn’t know how potential reach is guestimated. Would you/ do you put any faith in the culmulative figures? Should they include re-runs, repeats and, so Im told, snippets shown on the TV news ?.

The ruwc is getting good numbers and yet the irb feel the need to lie, so badly. Maybe you could ask your clients to find out why.

Anyhoo, it appears that Dally was quite correct to suggest the 2007 ruwc final had a television audience of just over 30 million.


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thank you for your input

excellent analysis

weve finally dispelled the IRB BS of 4 billion and from hereon we should use the figure of 30 - 40 million as the real one

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: joedynamo "Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million.
Thanks for that. It does go some way to removing the smoke and mirrors used, not just by the IRB, but many other sports organisations and the TV networks that show them.......but obviously not far enough to stop the global brands like VISA throwing money at the game of Union.

Quote: joedynamo "thank you for your input
excellent analysis
weve finally dispelled the IRB BS of 4 billion and from hereon we should use the figure of 30 - 40 million as the real one'"


actually no, joedynamo hasn't dispelled anything.......and the fact that you said "we" shows you up as being a bit sad.

What we have here is an article that states it is pretty much impossible for 4 billion to have watched the RUWC......and the irony is, the thread that this article has been posted c020.gif 9,000,000 <SNIGGER>

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: manly4ever "It was a huge mistake,instead of putting 4 million he put a 4 billion......'"

I never said 4 billion watched anything...I asked for proof that advertisers were being lied to. If you want to try and be clever, try harder icon_wink.gif
There is a poster on here though why HAS CLAIMED 9,000,000 as a viewing figure for an NRL promotional trailer......maybe you should try to have a pop at him. icon_lol.gif

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Quote: gutterfax "I never said 4 billion watched anything...I asked for proof that advertisers were being lied to. If you want to try and be clever, try harder


It will reach 9 million by the end of the year lol...

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[b:6jl68bf5][quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]Please tell me what a coach’s job is.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Matt89":6jl68bf5]phipps knows best (everything about rugby league) so don't disagree!!!![/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Huddersfield1895 AKA dally messenger":6jl68bf5] Having read the article several times I'm still confused[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Damo-Leeds":6jl68bf5]I shall keep posting on this thread and derail it as much as I want to.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [b:6jl68bf5][quote="PHIPPS":6jl68bf5]Sadly for Wigan as soon as Maguire gets an offer from an NRL club he will be on the plane home before you can say 'meat and potato pie'[/quote:6jl68bf5] [/b:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]I like you Phipps. I like your style.[/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Chorlton RL":6jl68bf5]As far as gauging the potential in the South West, I'd have thought the rumoured Wembley international double-header at the end of the season would be good way to do this. [/quote:6jl68bf5] [quote="Conorgiantsfan":6jl68bf5]You really annoy me. Like genital warts, but worse.[/quote:6jl68bf5]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_50156.jpg



Quote: joedynamo "Figures supplied by Initiative Sports Futures, an independent ratings company whom I am sure you are aware of, found the figure who watched the 2007 ruwc final to be a more realistic 33million.

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icon_lol.gif Nope.

Sorry Bazza.

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Quote: manly4ever "I'm only a tradesman,not a person that's been to university.So, I'm trying atleast lol....



It will reach 9 million by the end of the year lol...'"



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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



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Real figure watching RUWC final - 33 million

> RU calculator >

4 billion
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3.3 million watching an origin game >>>

RU calculator >>>>

160 million viewers
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I think every man and his dog were counted to watch the final of the RUWC...

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[quote="dally messenger":1gysl9ow]was watching an nfl doco. on one of their teams and they used the term bomb to describe those long high passes from quaterback to running back and i think gibson took that idea, realized you cant throw the ball forward in RL and adapted it to a "bomb" kick we have[/quote:1gysl9ow] [quote="eels fan":1gysl9ow]You poor poor obsessed fat ex vichyballin potato thieving stoaway.[/quote:1gysl9ow]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_6679.png



Quote: dally messenger "3.3 million watching an origin game >>>'"

so....RL uses a different system to declare viewing figures icon_biggrin.gif
I am going to get one of my staff to check on the major brand sponsors for the NRL teams, the S15 teams and all the international Rugby teams of both codes.....now, I don't want to jump the gun here, but I reckon I know the result icon_biggrin.gif
Localised hobby.....which I think is the better game BTW....or Union?
9,000,000 views...... icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif

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