There are 9 non-England eligible players in your list, so you'll have 8 next year if you drop by one. That is FAR too many for a club like Wigan.

This thread is unbelievable. Name me one more side that has debuted more players in Super League this season than Wigan.

Name me one side that has more players out on Dual-Reg or Loan than Wigan.

Thornley our fifth choice, yes fifth choice. (Gleeson, Carmont, Marsh, Charnley ahead of him) has gone to Rugby Union.

Spin it anyway you want, Wigan are replacing some aussies with some better aussies, and a young centre has left the game because Sale offered him more than we could afford to under the salary cap. Absolute non story if its any other team, but it's wigan, and they where once full time when nobody else was and it WASNT FAIR!

What you backwards Goons fail to understand is that Wigan DID have enough money to keep him, they just chose to use it to pay NRL players, thus further undermining the England team's chances.

But if you can sleep at night knowing that, so be it. All the other teams have done something about it bar the horrible, immoral Goons.

Quins have more British players in their 17 than Wigan do. That's just stupid.

So you think Wigan should have paid £60k-£70k for an 18 year old who had never played in the first team because he didn't want a full-time contract so he could finish his A-Levels?

You really need some new material - either that or at least string a decent argument together that can't be blown out of the water in an instant.

The point is that NINE non England eligible players have played for Wigan this year and you are likely to have EIGHT next season.

Two of the four players leaving to allow the new three aren't playing regular first team (Feka and Phelps) where as the incoming players certainly will - so next season, there will actually be a reduction in places in the Wigan first team for England eligible players in real terms.

From what I understand, Riddell/Phelps/Feka/Bailey will be off. That leaves Roberts/Carmont/Richards/Tommy/Hansen/Hoffman/Finch/Lima - 8 non England eligible players.

It is precisely because your youth set-up is so good that those sorts of numbers are so unpalatable.

i am slighly annoyed, not to mentoion nautious that I am being forced to agree with Wigan fans.

please stop this thread now

seasick??

See (no pun intended) thats how bad its made me feel.

An instant 10 pages there.

Wigan are not acting with the wider interests of the sport's future at heart. It has been very heartening this season to see all but one of the teams in SL put faith in English players and cut the numbers of overseas players. Look at Harlequins, who could now field an all English 17, despite the precarious nature of their very existence they have taken the view that the sport as a whole would benefit if England players were fielded, thus giving the sport a viable international aspect. Wigan are, as ever given their dark history, so blinded by the glint of silver from across the hill at successful clubs like Saints and Warrington that they would do literally anything to get around the rules and wring out any possible advantage. Now the live cap has meant blatant cheating is now no longer easy to do they look to other ways in order to go outside the spirit of not only the cap but also the sport and in this case look for dodgy, probably illegal passport loopholes to ensure they have twice as many overseas players as anyone else.

I'm guessing you've included Harrison Hansen there? If you want to split hairs Hansen is of Samoan descent and is just as England-eligible as Willie Manu, who was included in last weeks England training squad. Why is 8 out of a squad of 33 too many for Wigan but not too many for anyone else?

It's too many for everyone. It is especially noticeable at Wigan because they have a very strong youth set up and a chairman that not long ago was talking about his dream of an all English team but now looks to double the quota for his club.

so your team DONT have any overseas players then.
and how many academy players have your team supplied to all the other teams in the leagues because there are too many of them to play in their home town team or the first team of the academy that trained them up?

by the way thicko you can not have more overseas players than the quota allows!!!!