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Quote: dally messenger "nah i didnt say you are being hypocritical, just that your post was hypercritical.

i like to be positive myself.'"

How can my post be hypercritical but not me? I'm the one that said it! FFS dally, you're really not helping yourself as usual! Which part of my post was hypercritical? I really don't think you have a clue what the word means. What does being positive have to do with being hypercritical or not?!

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Quote: Wellsy13 "How can my post be hypercritical but not me? I'm the one that said it! FFS dally, you're really not helping yourself as usual! Which part of my post was hypercritical? I really don't think you have a clue what the word means. What does being positive have to do with being hypercritical or not?!'"


Hypo isnt the same as Hyper.

Though im sure hyper critical is two words

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Quote: Wellsy13 "Just because there are big union clubs doesn't make it any easier for rugby league to take off.[ I don't see how you have come to that conclusion? South Africa is a big market, but so is America. What's the difference?

Expansion plans should not be dropped for the sake of some rich backer in a random place saying they want a franchise. To me, it's pretty insulting that people think it is that easy to run a professional rugby league club that all they need is a wad of cash. There's more to professional sport than money.'"


Yes, Just because Western Province (WP) and the Stormers franchise (of which WP owns part) Rugby are strong, it does not mean that Rugby League would necessarily take off in South Africa. However, given the large base of Rugby players in the Cape, a large percentage of whom do not get many opportunities to progress, Rugby League [icould[/i possibly get a good opportunity, if people are genuinely committed to forging links with the different local communities, and being inclusive to all social groups, developing the game. Genuine commitment and ties to a region are needed for any expansion attempt to be successful anywhere.

You asked how South Africa (or France) is different to America. I'd say the more relevant question is

Consider these reply posts by on that thread by by bladder - a South African from Cape Town (his references to local areas there are quite specific)
rlBladder reply 2rl

Now, I argued in the post on League Unlimited rlShould South Africa's Southern Kings be offered an NRL/ESL franchise?rl that going for Leighton Samuel's Rugby Union team and money has eventually provided Wales RL with a professional team that is competing reasonably well and attracting. If RFL not taken the opportunity, it would be unlikely that Wales RL would be near the state that it is now.

Quote: Wellsy13 "The Crusaders seem to have done reasonably well in Wrexham, in an area with no professional Rugby Union team as competition. Crusaders average attendance in 2010

FWIW, getting back to the original point, I don't think Stade Francais has a genuine interest in participating in Super League or developing RL there. Owner Guazzini wants a new revenue stream and/or a better stadium.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "Hypo isnt the same as Hyper.

Though im sure hyper critical is two words'"


You are indeed correct. My mistake. I just assumed he was doing his usual inconsistent spelling that I hadn't even noticed.
Spelling error from myself there, which I'll admit. From the context I was using the term in, it was clear I meant "hyp[io[/icrit" though.
But "hypercritical" is still one word.

Still, what does being positive have to do with being hyp[ier[/icritical?

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Quote: Wellsy13 "How can my post be hypercritical but not me? I'm the one that said it! FFS dally, you're really not helping yourself as usual! Which part of my post was hypercritical? I really don't think you have a clue what the word means. What does being positive have to do with being hypercritical or not?!'"


hypercritical means being too critical.

me im positive.

unless you confused it with hypocritical, but you are too smart to do that.

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Quote: The Observer "Yes, Just because Western Province (WP) and the Stormers franchise (of which WP owns part) Rugby are strong, it does not mean that Rugby League would necessarily take off in South Africa. However, given the large base of Rugby players in the Cape, a large percentage of whom do not get many opportunities to progress, Rugby League [icould[/i possibly get a good opportunity, if people are genuinely committed to forging links with the different local communities, and being inclusive to all social groups, developing the game. Genuine commitment and ties to a region are needed for any expansion attempt to be successful anywhere.'"

There are a lot of rugby players in the south of England as well, but they're not all lining up to play for the Quins. But there is a scope (just like anywhere really). There needs to be A LOT of work done before just plonking an NRL or SL team in there, otherwise there will be next to no interest and it won't last long..

Quote: The Observer "You asked how South Africa (or France) is different to America. I'd say the more relevant question is

Consider these reply posts by on that thread by by bladder - a South African from Cape Town (his references to local areas there are quite specific)
rlBladder reply 2rl'"

I never compared France to anyone. I compared SA and USA. If you compare pretty much any country, they are always going to have different histories and conditions, etc. We aren't looking for exact replicas here, just the similarities (otherwise you couldn't compare anything). The similarities are that both countries have a dominant handling code of football that aren't rugby league, but these codes have transferable skills. That's why I question why SA would be anymore successful than USA.

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Now, I argued in the post on League Unlimited rlShould South Africa's Southern Kings be offered an NRL/ESL franchise?rl that going for Leighton Samuel's Rugby Union team and money has eventually provided Wales RL with a professional team that is competing reasonably well and attracting. If RFL not taken the opportunity, it would be unlikely that Wales RL would be near the state that it is now.'"

SL got incredibily lucky that someone was willing to take over Crusaders. The jury is still out on whether they are successful or not (their crowds and performances are slipping) but they are a darn sight better than Bridgend. It is not a model that is worth copying. Bridgend could have gone bust mid-season the way that place was run, and there is no guarantee that someone will take over. If they do perish, that is a lot of TV money that could have been spent on establishing league somewhere else. It isn't just the rich backers money we're using.

Quote: The Observer "FWIW, getting back to the original point, I don't think Stade Francais has a genuine interest in participating in Super League or developing RL there. Owner Guazzini wants a new revenue stream and/or a better stadium.'"

If they want to, that is their decision.. I wouldn't object to it. What I would object to is dropping everything just to let them in because they're from Paris.

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Quote: Wellsy13 "You are indeed correct. My mistake. I just assumed he was doing his usual inconsistent spelling that I hadn't even noticed.
Spelling error from myself there, which I'll admit. From the context I was using the term in, it was clear I meant "hyp[io[/icrit" though.
But "hypercritical" is still one word.

Still, what does being positive have to do with being hyp[ier[/icritical?'"


tut tut, it looks like you did mean hypocritical instead of hypercritical

dont you have some fancy degree or something from a uni?

oh my.

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Quote: dally messenger "tut tut, it looks like you did mean hypocritical instead of hypercritical

dont you have some fancy degree or something from a uni?

oh my.'"

We ignoring posts with difficult questions still, dally?

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Quote: Wellsy13 "We ignoring posts with difficult questions still, dally?'"


thats your reply?
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at least you know now the difference b/ween hypo and hyper critical.

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Quote: dally messenger "hypercritical means being too critical.

me im positive.

unless you confused it with hypocritical, but you are too smart to do that.'"


Didn't see this post.

You do realise that criticism isn't always negative? You can be too critical with your positive criticism (even if it has a negative outcome overall). So you being "positive" (which is a joke anyway as I can show you a fair few "negative" posts about certain SL clubs/players, the AFL, etc.) has nothing to do with being hypERcritical.

I may be bad at spelling it times, but I do understand the words, Dally. Here you have clearly shown you do not. But at least you tried to understand, which is a start.

What's your version of hypOcritical then, whilst we're at it? And does you being "positive" stop you from that too? icon_lol.gif

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I live by that Wellsey!
People always say im moaning, i aint! I just think things could always be better.
That's about what this thread's degraded to.. right?

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Well I did keep trying to get him to answer the question regarding why he would drop all SL expansion plans for Stade Francais but not all NRL expansion plans for a South African franchise (hyperthetically speaking) but he wouldn't answer, using my spelling error as a cop out.

Oh, and Dally: I have intentionally spelled hyperthetically wrong. I know it's an "o" icon_wink.gif

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Quote: Wellsy13 " but he wouldn't answer, using my spelling error as a cop out.'"
...tell me about it. One of his now retired keyboard warrior mates on the NRL boards spent about 2 weeks referring to my gramatical errors when unable to reply to the point raised......it is a sign that you have won the point and the other person has no relevant comeback.

I have oftenwondered about Safrica as a potential League target....the way they play Union would point to them enjoying contact and they have produced some pretty good players over the years that wouldn't have looked out of place in the 13 man code.

There is a social/economic divide in the country that would maybe make it hard for poorer areas to accept anything with the name Rugby in it, but soccer (as it always does) has managed to grow significantly there over the last 20 years.....Maybe an exhibition series played there might be a good thing, or even the WCC Final.......?

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Quote: dally messenger "at least you know now the difference b/ween hypo and hyper critical.'"


If you're going to pick other people up on spelling, Dally, you could have at least spelled the name of Stade Français correctly when you started the thread.

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Quote: JonM "If you're going to pick other people up on spelling, Dally, you could have at least spelled the name of Stade Français correctly when you started the thread.'"


i actually knew he meant hypocritical.

but it was just so funny stringing him along and hypercritical does have a meaning.

so when he asked me if i knew what it meant, i gave him the correct meaning.

i hope he reads those last 2 pages again, then hell understand how much amusement he gave me

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