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| can you explain where youve got the additional £100k from i dont see Sky sponsoring MM in any way separately from their overall deal and Engage's sponsorship covers every round anyway - this is not extra to the main sponsors package -
the profit in 2007 was based purely on gate money there were no " extras" . the clubs received very little of this hence some of them feeling a bit miffed .
it might look a nice round figure but given how much time and energy (which is months) so many people have spent on promotion/advertising etc the net return on investment is not that great in percentage terms
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| Quote: philipk "it might look a nice round figure but given how much time and energy (which is months) so many people have spent on promotion/advertising etc the net return on investment is not that great in percentage terms'"
Yeah, sod the £400k if we need to work for it.
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| Quote: eddiewaringsflatcap "The prospects of playing in a cavenous stadium in front of only a handful of people who are interested is bad enough.'"
Been to The Twickenham Stoop recently
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| Quote: FearTheVee "Yeah, sod the £400k if we need to work for it.'" ]
come on its a hardly a lottery win is it , probably about a month or 2 running costs at Red Hall covered - probably got more from this years WCC for a lot less time and effort
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| Quote: philipk " can you explain where youve got the additional £100k from i dont see Sky sponsoring MM in any way separately from their overall deal and Engage's sponsorship covers every round anyway - this is not extra to the main sponsors package -'"
SKY are paying an amount based on a certain number of games per year they broadcast – it stands to reason that if we give them 7 less games we will lose % of the money they put into the game. I worked out the SKY deal the other day as worth around £500k per round, and whilst I know it’s not quite as simple as that, it gives a good indication as to the value they put on a weekend of games. From what I remember of last year, there was also extra sponsors on hand just for this weekend.
Quote: philipk " the profit in 2007 was based purely on gate money there were no " extras" . the clubs received very little of this hence some of them feeling a bit miffed . '"
Why should the clubs receive any of it directly? It is an extra game that wouldn’t be occurring anywhere otherwise. As you said, all their costs are paid for, so they are not losing anything.
Quote: philipk "it might look a nice round figure but given how much time and energy (which is months) so many people have spent on promotion/advertising etc the net return on investment is not that great in percentage terms '"
Well you initially said it was £400k profit, not revenue.
Anyways, that is generally how things work in business (the RFL are a business afterall), you put effort in and get money back. It is not very often that you get given free money.
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| Quote: philipk "come on its a hardly a lottery win is it , probably about a month or 2 running costs at Red Hall covered - probably got more from this years WCC for a lot less time and effort'"
OK, I get it. You think it's a bad idea and that we don't need the cash or exposure. I think otherwise and can't wait for my flight tomorrow.
Hope you enjoy watching the games on TV, it should be great.
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| Quote: philipk "come on its a hardly a lottery win is it , probably about a month or 2 running costs at Red Hall covered - probably got more from this years WCC for a lot less time and effort'"
if it covers 2 months of costs at Red Hall, that sounds fairly significant.
Anyway, it is £400k from another budget that can be spent on development in Cumbria.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "OK, I get it. You think it's a bad idea and that we don't need the cash or exposure. I think otherwise and can't wait for my flight tomorrow.
Hope you enjoy watching the games on TV, it should be great.'"
I get the feeling that phillipk might be there regardless of his thoughts on the event itself
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| If only Graham and Cunningham had concentrated on preparing for the game rather than slagging off the concept ...
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| with official attendance less than 30k in rugby unions scottish home, i think we need a serious debate about the pr value of the magic weekend.
1 its bloody embarrasing
2. it shows our sport in a bad light
3. the games are played in a weird atmos
4. kick and clap mob wet themselves
5 real fans miss out to local cheapies / freebies due to expense of travel etc
6 fixtures are random surely whole sport need one home and one away game against each team?
7. im sorry expansionists but it didnt work in wales so why will it work in scotland?
8. and most importantly... i hate it!
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| Quote: chapster "
1 its bloody embarrasing
2. it shows our sport in a bad light
3. the games are played in a weird atmos
4. kick and clap mob wet themselves
5 real fans miss out to local cheapies / freebies due to expense of travel etc
6 fixtures are random surely whole sport need one home and one away game against each team?
7. im sorry expansionists but it didnt work in wales so why will it work in scotland?
8. and most importantly... i hate it!'"
I agree
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| Let it run.
Orville and Wilbur crashed loads of times.
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| Quote: littlerich "Let it run.
Orville and Wilbur crashed loads of times.'"
but to be fair not with a product that had beed used perfectly well for over a hundred years!
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| I agree, I bet they'll take some right stick from the fans this weekend.
Deservedly so, anything they put out should be put through the club
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| Quote: chapster "but to be fair not with a product that had beed used perfectly well for over a hundred years!'"
Can't have been that perfect if they're still trying stunts like MM
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