Isn't that the way it should be? Clubs should have always been putting emphasis on their own club and the product, rather than basing their marketing on 'come and watch us because we might get into Super League one day', despite the fact that under the previous system I honestly couldn't imagine a club outside Salford, Celtic or the relegated Castleford winning automatic promotion for the foreseeable future. If clubs are now being forced to focus on developing their business rather than a virtually unattainable and pointless goal, then surely that is a good thing?

If Super League players can't play without the threat of relegation it will say more about them than it will of the system.

So the simple answer is to have the Chamionship finish before the SL , like we did back in 2001 when Widnes mangaged to recruit well enough to finish 7 th in 2002

Not rocket science is it

But it isn't viable as long as you have expansion teams in as they might get relegated

That is the problem not that a heartland club might go down , they would survive

The problem we all have is that the RFL dont have the balls to admit what the problem really is

If they did we would accept it , us being straight talking northen folk and not souther ' jessies '

They shouldn't want to come bottom because of their pride.



So what's the point in having play-offs in the SL then? Nobody goes up?

In fact, what's the point in having champions in SL? There is no promotion is there?

No amount of bleating is going to change things.

Clubs in the Championship have to grasp the bull by the horns and make the competition a success in it's own right. Increased prize monies and sponsorship will help. Weekly live TV coverage should help to bring in sponsorship. It's up to these clubs - working with the RFL, to improve the standards in this league. Widnes are doing it. So are Halifax. So are Barrow and Featherstone.

Because they start doing this around June/July time or even earlier, rather than throwing a squad of rejects together a month or two before the start of the season

are you 4 real?...dougnut

Is it ?

In what way ?

Is it what?

[i"Is it"[/i doesn't make sense in the context of that part of my quote you put in bold.

How about the chance to win the league you have been playing in all year?

yeah and by rights then you should step up

So you admit that the removal of relegation and promotion is to protect expansion clubs

The players Widnes signed when they were promoted were not the ones that got them relegated , it was an almost totally different team

Once again you are falling into the trap of assuming that every club can avoid finishing bottom in a sporting competition , we hae a thread on the VT about it at the moment

For every winner there is a loser , dont forget that

Ok , Why should being on the TV at some point in the season help with sponsorship to the championship clubs ?

The deals for sponsors are done before you know wether you are on the telly