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| Quote downo="downo"No Clive Churchill???
the fact Shaun Johnson got within cooee of that list is testament that you have no [delloving[/del f*cking idea'"
Clive Churchill was just outside the list.
Shaun Johnson is one of the most naturally talented half backs to ever play the game. His problem is that he is not consistently good in attack. But his outstanding cover defence is never bad.
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Player Coach | 9426 | Leigh Centurions |
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| Darren Lockyer for me.
But Andrew Johns, Gordon Tallis, JT and Cameron Smith all up there for me too.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Clive Churchill was just outside the list.
Shaun Johnson is one of the most naturally talented half backs to ever play the game. His problem is that he is not consistently good in attack. But his outstanding cover defence is never bad.'"
Churchill had more around footy smarts & knowledge & ability to control a game than Johnson would amass if he were to play for 1000 years, Johnson has a tricky little Benji like sidestep & good footwork, which is just an athletic gift, too many players in this day & age get nominated as greats or potential greats based on athleticism alone, its the age of Athletes
Anyone with half a brain can discern between a Footy player" & an out and out athlete & anyone who thinks Johnson is half the player some of the greats are needs his head read
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| According to the records times played and points scored it has to be Jim Sullivan. When he played at the SCG he put many thousands extra onto the gate. But of course neither I, nor I suspect anyone else on the forum, ever saw players from his period which was also a very long time in the game at the top level.
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| Quote JEAN CAPDOUZE="JEAN CAPDOUZE"Darren Lockyer was a poor defender. He therefore cannot be on anyone's list.'"
Not the greatest drinker either, as I witnessed in Walkabout Manchester a few years ago. 
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| Quote The Avenger="The Avenger"Wally Lewis played with a level of vision and awareness that I've rarely seen, probably 2 or 3 other players in 40+ years of being involved in one way or another. His passing game was the best I've ever witnessed and I'm not just talking about his famed long passing ability which was peerless and sublime but his short passes, disguise and offloads were equally refined, he rarely took the wrong option or threw a poor pass.
Another remarkable quality was his pace over 20 - 30 metres, due to his obvious ability he was often closed down which rarely worked on him as he could step and accelerate into the holes left behind an advancing defender, once into the clear he found the support by varying his pace and angle, buying time until he could pick his pass.
I've seen front row forwards try to take him out and come off second best in collisions, even when Lewis got hit, cut and bloodied he maintained his involvement at the highest level and just got on with it, he was as tough as they make them.
Defensively he was right up there with anyone you wish to name and he often covered from touchline to touchline in order to prevent breaks.
His kicking game was a masterclass for anyone who wants to learn the art of controlling a game through territorial dominance and he also had a superb short kicking game, either a chip or a grabber over and through the defensive line.
He carried players over the try line in their threes and fours even at SoO and Test level, such was his balance, footwork, power but more importantly his will!
He was proud of his reputation, took the field ready to play and never shirked the responsibility his name and status placed upon his shoulders.
For me the best I've ever witnessed and certainly several classes above Andrew Johns'"
Great summary Avenger. Wally Lewis, the best I ever saw along with Murphy.
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| Quote downo="downo"when a thread invites you to name the greatest player ever, even if you were to state the best player you've seen, one should never, ever, never mention the name Martin "chariots" Offiah'"
Are you retarded? I only ask because he specifically said that it’s “only players he had seen” and I assume you couldn’t decipher what he wrote considering you called him out on it
Regards
King James
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| Brian Bevan.
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| Quote Plastic Scrummers="Plastic Scrummers"Roger Millward'"
I watched Roger a lot and whilst he was a good player not in the same class as others of his era or thereabouts even at half back - Murphy was different class.
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| Of players I've seen in the flesh it would have to be Ellery Hanley and Mal Meninga.
I was fortunate that when I was taken to my first St Helens game as a kid was during Big Mal's season at Saints.
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| Of Aussies in last 30 years I'd say Big Mal and Fittler for consistently come up with the decisive play when the chips were down in big games.in an earlier era, Reg Gasnier stood out. Best Aussie of all time - Brian Bevan.
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| As a kid the only RL I watched was GB v Aus. My favourite players were Hanley and Offiah. I liked Little Andy Gregory too. I think Little was his first name anyway - Ray French always called him that.
Mal Meninga was the player I remember most from the Australians. He was awesome.
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