None of them have been retained due to history.
The license period hasn't come up since Bradford went into admin, so they haven't exactly been in a position to be replaced.

A massive loan on the back of the ' Iconic ' status of Odsal comes under history IMO, take that away and the Bulls were toast irrelivant of licence periods

All IMO, no further comment

Didn't Crusaders get the same deal? They didn't have a history.

I'd say Bradford were kept due to their commercial necessity to SL, not because they had a good history. The "iconic stadium" loan was just a way to help them, like they have other clubs in the past.

Get rid of cas for Toulouse

Which would produce better players over any time scale you chose ???

Over a ten year period starting in 2015, Toulouse obviously.

Toulouse is a city, not a small town, and that city's population -- more than 20 times the size of Castleford -- is rugby mad. But until now the youth of that city have only had a professional rugby club of the rugby union variety. They have never had a local professional rugby league team to watch and to aspire to play for. Once Toulouse is admitted to SuperLeague, and the club's youth development officers start fanning out into the city, the youth interest in rugby league --- as "[il'autre rugby[/i" --- will start to grow quickly.

Do you really think the union boys will sit back and welcome competition in their City...especially the biggest team in their code multiple European champions etc?....they'll put up any barrier they can to make sure the league club isn't a threat (you obviously don't know much about history towards our sport in France)

Not to mention the salary cap (or lack of) in their league, they'd offer huge ammounts of money to tempt promising young local players over to the dark side (like they've done before) and what would you be left with?...a team full of ageing overseas players!

Impossible question to answer without Toulouse being in the league.

I can only go by comparing Cas to Catalans, and IMO Catalans have by far the better French players than Cas do local English players.

Also, if Cas weren't in SL, there would still be 6 other local SL clubs around to sign up the local talent into their academies. Cas aren't exactly essential to the production of players in that area when there are that many clubs on the doorstep. They'd still come up through somewhere if they were good enough (and looking through the list if Cas products in their squad, some are clearly not SL quality).

Catalans may sign up the occasional player from Toulouse, but it's a huge distance away (equivalent of Hull to Liverpool). It's a huge barrier to development. They could produce many if their own players in that area for sure, and that's without wishing for union converts (which I don't think anyone should count on happening).

Translation - Cas would.

Thanks

how is st helens on my doorstep or wigan i live on kingswood your very opinionated on other peoples opinions wellsy.

Without a S.L club on their doorstep the kids would soon lose interest in the sport in the long term. There hasn't been a Cumbrian team in the top flight for a while...so compare the number of Cumbrians playing in S.L now to what it was 20 years ago....go on name them!

Talk about a "never mind you Jack" attitude...mind you have signed plenty from my district over the past 30 years (and continue to do so) not bad from the supposed hot bed of Humberside is it?.

5 clubs in the NW. 5 clubs in West Yorkshire. 2 in East Yorkshire. It's safe to say that there is a fair concentration of clubs in small pockets. Hull is isolated from the rest, but we're still sharing.

Clubs in West Yorkshire have everyone within an hours drive. That's not a good spread. Everyone's on each other's toes effectively.

I like to justify my opinions, nothing wrong with that. I also like it when others can justify there's when asked about them. If it's a decent opinion, it shouldn't be difficult to justify (even if it doesn't agree with mine).

That's the dumbest point ever on VT, well done !!!

If you read the rest of my post, I argued why I disagree that Cas would produce more quality players over time by comparing Toulouse with Catalans.

If you can prove that Cas would produce more, be my guest. Otherwise, your question achieves nothing. It's a fallacious argument.