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Quote: Mr Dog "Yeah, right.'"


My post was somewhat tongue in cheek.
However, if the further expansion into France and into N.America aren't going to help the game as a whole, what is the point ?
You would think that IF Toulouse could establish themselves as a SL side, it would help the French National side, which has gone backwards at a rate of knots since SL began.
Toronto, expensive gimmick or, genuine attempt to spread RL into N. America ?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



As a London fan...... Only if we finish in the top 3 or win the MPG thanks..... Otherwise we're fine as we are for now. We've been there and done that and I have loads of shirts to prove it, but without a new ownership model...... I don't see the point of going back to 3k gates and reliance on one man

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Quote: wrencat1873 "Just to put it out there, it may well be that the MPG becomes irrelevant as there is every chance of a change to the league structure, which may well see SL expanded to 14 clubs, which will ensure the safety of Leeds
Not at all , we weren't good enough to make the 4 , so don't deserve anything

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Quote: Psychedelic Casual "You can’t protect one team from relegation, that’s just unfair. You have to protect all teams from relegation if you want to help one club develop.

Imagine Wigan or Leeds getting relegated even with finishing above Toronto...

That mean no promotion and relegation, end it, closed shop unless you show you’re a SL club worthy of adding to the competition.'"

Of course you can. Catalans were given protection from relegation and have become one of Super League’s strongest clubs.

However i do believe it’d be better if all 14 Super League clubs were given protection from relegation.

Bradford used to be one of the “Big 4”. They were then relegated from Super League and then the Championship. Why not anyone else?

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Catalans were given protection from relegation and have become one of Super League’s strongest clubs.
'"

More inane drivel....
39 wins from 92 regular season games 2015/2018. 42% win ratio
9 wins from 25 games in the 8's 2015/2018. 36% win ratio

....catalan are not one of the stronger SL Clubs in terms of performance on or off the field...they are average at best.

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ABT will do me.....ANYBODY BUT TORONTO ! k020.gif

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Quote: Budgiezilla "ANYBODY BUT TORONTO ! Obsessed

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Quote: Call Me God "
....catalan are not one of the stronger SL Clubs in terms of performance on or off the field...they are average at best.'"

They just won the Challenge Cup. When did, Wakefield, Castleford, Widnes, Salford, Huddersfield, Hull kr, Leigh or London last achieve that?

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "Obsessed'"


HA HA HA. Only while traitor/Mr Morals Rowley is there, hope they lose everytime they play. Hopefully again next Saturday, you fake Leeds Rhinos .....

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Quote: Call Me God "

....catalan are not one of the stronger SL Clubs in terms of performance on or off the field...they are average at best.'"


Catalans just won the Challenge Cup, beating Warrington and St Helens (easily) along the way.

Catalans would have beaten St Helens again last weekend had it not been for a forward pass ignoring incompetent referee.

Catalans has a core base of nearly 8000 fans. In Super League only Leeds, Wigan, St Helens, Warrington and Hull FC have a bigger core fan base.

Wake up and smell the coffee!

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "They just won the Challenge Cup. When did, Wakefield, Castleford, Widnes, Salford, Huddersfield, Hull kr, Leigh or London last achieve that?'"

... Superleague club.... Your words not mine. They are a 42% win club... Lower mid table side at best and mid table attendance wise....

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Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Catalans just won the Challenge Cup, beating Warrington and St Helens (easily) along the way.

Catalans would have beaten St Helens again last weekend had it not been for a forward pass ignoring incompetent referee.

Catalans has a core base of nearly 8000 fans. In Super League only Leeds, Wigan, St Helens, Warrington and Hull FC have a bigger core fan base.

Wake up and smell the coffee!'"


IF my Auntie had (rugby) balls, she would be my uncle. c020.gif

What does 'wake up and smell the coffee' actually mean ?
I know you are French icon_lol.gif icon_lol.gif , but please explain further.
Also can you explain why Catalans supporters do not like visiting England ? Even rubbish/lowly/scum Leigh Centurions took over 500 fans to Catalans, on each of their 3 visits. The 1st game, we took a 1000 fans.

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JESUS WEPT :WALL: HOW MANY TIMES????? £20 a ticket and £15 on beer and merchandise.....so an away fan is worth £35. At best, 1,000 is the average away support split across 11 rounds and I am being really generous here, so Toronto, replacing say Wakefield will cost a SL club £35,000. The minimum turnover of a SL club is £4,000,000 so Toronto instead of Widnes is worth less than 1% of a SL clubs turnover. There are many valid reasons for and against expansion into America, but "AWAY FANS" isn't one of them. :BEAT::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_76030.jpg



Quote: JEAN CAPDOUZE "Catalans just won the Challenge Cup,<snip>
Wake up and smell the coffee!'"

As I have shown, to the other collective troll I was addressing a while back whilst discussing the claim about a top SL team and nothing to do with the Challenge Cup....., Catalans have won only 42% of their regular season SL games since the end of licensing. 42% of games would deliver 22.68 points, or 6th spot this year, 7th last, 5th in 2016 and 6th again in 2015...they are a mid table outfit, not once finishing in the top 4 spots, which defines a top SL team. Tey did finish 4th once, some 7 seasons ago, but since then they have dropped to the ignominy of having to win the MPG just to survive less than 12 months ago......they are mid table at best

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Quote: Budgiezilla "IF my Auntie had (rugby) balls, she would be my uncle.
Another tin pot club that's going to the dogs supporter in denial again..... icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Call Me God "As I have shown, to the other collective troll I was addressing a while back whilst discussing the claim about a top SL team and nothing to do with the Challenge Cup....., Catalans have won only 42% of their regular season SL games since the end of licensing. 42% of games would deliver 22.68 points, or 6th spot this year, 7th last, 5th in 2016 and 6th again in 2015...they are a mid table outfit, not once finishing in the top 4 spots, which defines a top SL team. Tey did finish 4th once, some 7 seasons ago, but since then they have dropped to the ignominy of having to win the MPG just to survive less than 12 months ago......they are mid table at best'"


As well as being pseudo expansionist yet anti-TWP and now Les Catalans type, I really wonder why you are so hostile yet your own tin pot nomadic club has failed to establish itself after 34 years???

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