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| Quote: Egg Banjo "Poor deluded bulls fans, can't see what's right in front of your nose.
Your new owner has had your pants down'"
You can't see past the chip on your shoulder.
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Bless the RFL are 'sulking'. They have sold a lease to Bradford Council, and now what's Odsal going to be use for on a regular basis. Sweet F.A.
Placing the club in 'special measures' is taking the **ss, is that going to make the club think "hold on, we should move back to that huge expensive dump that is Odsal"
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| Quote: Budgiezilla "Bless the RFL are 'sulking'. They have sold a lease to Bradford Council, and now what's Odsal going to be use for on a regular basis. Sweet F.A.
Placing the club in 'special measures' is taking the **ss, is that going to make the club think "hold on, we should move back to that huge expensive dump that is Odsal"'"
Exactly, it's likely that once the accounts are released in October and all Bradford's OOC players have signed for other clubs, the special measures will be dropped and Bradford will have to settle for the players that no-one else wants,meaning they're likely to finish lower in the table next year so along with the likely hit in income that'll result from the move to Dewsbury, there's less central funding for Bradford. It's almost like the RFL are doing everything they can to punish Bradford under the table because there's no official route by which they can take shots at the Bulls |
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The statement says remain in special measures. Is it poorly worded or were the Bulls already in special measures prior to this?
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Quote: Budgiezilla "Bless the RFL are 'sulking'. They have sold a lease to Bradford Council, and now what's Odsal going to be use for on a regular basis. Sweet F.A.
Placing the club in 'special measures' is taking the **ss, is that going to make the club think "hold on, we should move back to that huge expensive dump that is Odsal"'"
Thank you
Someone with common sense
RFL stand to lose 72k a year, plus they have a charge out against all property/leases which I imagine will be effected by Bulls leaving.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 73/charges
Info below as well.
Persons entitled
Bibby Financial Services LTD (As Security Trustee)
Brief description
By way of first legal mortgage, all land (as defined below) belonging to the company at the date of the debenture including without limitation that described in part 1 of schedule 2 to the debenture (a copy of which schedule is attached to this form MR01 ).. in the debenture “land” means all estates and other interests in freehold, leasehold or other immovable property (wherever situated) or in which the company has an interest and:-. (I) all buildings and fixtures (including trade fixtures but not including tenant’s fixtures) and fixed plant and machinery at any time thereon;. (Ii) all easements, rights and agreements in respect of such property;. (Iii) all proceeds of sale of such property; and. (Iv) the benefit of all covenants given in respect of such property.
Contains fixed charge.
Contains floating charge.
Floating charge covers all the property or undertaking of the company.
Contains negative pledge. |
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Quote: Budgiezilla "Bless the RFL are 'sulking'. They have sold a lease to Bradford Council, and now what's Odsal going to be use for on a regular basis. Sweet F.A.
Placing the club in 'special measures' is taking the **ss, is that going to make the club think "hold on, we should move back to that huge expensive dump that is Odsal"'"
Thank you
Someone with common sense
RFL stand to lose 72k a year, plus they have a charge out against all property/leases which I imagine will be effected by Bulls leaving.
https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/comp ... 73/charges
Info below as well.
Persons entitled
Bibby Financial Services LTD (As Security Trustee)
Brief description
By way of first legal mortgage, all land (as defined below) belonging to the company at the date of the debenture including without limitation that described in part 1 of schedule 2 to the debenture (a copy of which schedule is attached to this form MR01 ).. in the debenture “land” means all estates and other interests in freehold, leasehold or other immovable property (wherever situated) or in which the company has an interest and:-. (I) all buildings and fixtures (including trade fixtures but not including tenant’s fixtures) and fixed plant and machinery at any time thereon;. (Ii) all easements, rights and agreements in respect of such property;. (Iii) all proceeds of sale of such property; and. (Iv) the benefit of all covenants given in respect of such property.
Contains fixed charge.
Contains floating charge.
Floating charge covers all the property or undertaking of the company.
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| Quote: Traffic "The statement says remain in special measures. Is it poorly worded or were the Bulls already in special measures prior to this?'"
Bulls,RFL,Bradford Council have been talking about this since May with no success so shouldn't be a shock to RFL that the Bulls are leaving, then again it is the RFL. |
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| Quote: Traffic "The statement says remain in special measures. Is it poorly worded or were the Bulls already in special measures prior to this?'"
Well the RFL blocked the Bulls signing an unnamed player before the transfer deadline, however they've only now come out and made it official. |
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "You can't see past the chip on your shoulder.
And given that you're clearly a troll, I'll just ignore your comments going forward.'"
Believe what you want, but don't bother come with the begging buckets again, RL fans aren't interested in saving you this time. You might still be deluded, but the rest of RL fans can see through the actions of Bradford... again |
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If they remain in special measures then it is not a direct result of the decision to leave odsal the RFL obviously had concerns about the bulls finances already.
It maybe the case that with the reported savings from moving out of odsal that the finances going forward will be acceptable, but if insufficient information has been provided then I don’t see how the RFL can remove the special measures at the present time.
Be interesting to see what Chalmers next statement says
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| Quote: roofaldo2 "Well the RFL blocked the Bulls signing an unnamed player before the transfer deadline, however they've only now come out and made it official.'"
So it may (and I stress may) be that the special measures are not related to the move. Hell of a coincidence if so but not impossible. |
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| Quote: Traffic "So it may (and I stress may) be that the special measures are not related to the move. Hell of a coincidence if so but not impossible.'"
That's perfectly possible. It just seems strange timing |
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Does that statement not strike anyone else as being incredibly unprofessional in tone? Even with my red amber and black glasses off it is worded oddly. I'm not sure governing bodies generally use phrases like "Based on the information received the RFL feel that this decision made by the Bradford Bulls directors is a poor one".
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| Quote: Egg Banjo "Scummy club....gullible Bulls fans etc etc'"
How about you use grown up language or stick to Facebook. |
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| Quote: Pumpetypump "Does that statement not strike anyone else as being incredibly unprofessional in tone? Even with my red amber and black glasses off it is worded oddly. What governing body uses phrases like "Based on the information received the RFL feel that this decision made by the Bradford Bulls directors is a poor one".'"
Nothing unprofessional about that, they are expressing an opinion based on the evidence provided by the club. They are the guardians of the sport, and it is beholden upon them to advise (publically if needed) against decisions which they feel would be detrimental to the sport as a whole, individual leagues, and individual clubs
Would you be whining if the RFL had said "... Bradford Bulls Directors is a good one"
I very much doubt it. It works both ways |
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| Quote: Egg Banjo "Believe what you want, but don't bother come with the begging buckets again, RL fans aren't interested in saving you this time. You might still be deluded, but the rest of RL fans can see through the actions of Bradford... again'"
You obviously don't like the club, so your comments seem a 'tad' irrelevant, wouldn't you agree ? |
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