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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Define 'Worthy'?
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definition of 'Worthy'
1. Having worth, merit, or value; useful or valuable.
2. Honorable; admirable:
3. Having sufficient worth; deserving:
can you see any of the above terms bearing any relevance to the London Broncos in their present state ?
please,be honest now !
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| Quote: gutterfax "Like last time?'"
Come on then dont let facts get in the way of a good story. Why not compare Fax and Londons attendances since SL started? I dont even mind you comparing them since we dropped out of SL.
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| Quote: sanjunien "definition of 'Worthy'
1. Having worth, merit, or value; useful or valuable.
2. Honorable; admirable
All of the above apply to London Broncos, at least as much as to Salford, Huddersfield, Wakefield and other 'heartland' clubs who have struggled to get gates above 5k for most of SL history.
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| Quote: Asgardian13 "All of the above apply to London Broncos, at least as much as to Salford, Huddersfield, Wakefield and other 'heartland' clubs who have struggled to get gates above 5k for most of SL history.'"
true enough but most of them managed at least 2K !
I have a nephew who lives in Strawberry Hill,not a million miles from The Stoop you will admit - he reckons that the official figure of 1987 or whatever is pure fantasy - he put the crowd down to less than a 1000 !
so,what's actually going on ,eh ?
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| I'd say we're pretty much ****ed now. RL will thrive despite this club failing though, in London and beyond.
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| Quote: Tre Cool "I'd say we're pretty much ****ed now. RL will thrive despite this club failing though, in London and beyond.'"
that's the ironic thing,RL is really taking off in the southeast (and East Anglia !) which is great but makes it even more baffling why people aren't turning out to see top flight RL !
it's a great sport / spectacle so what's the problem ?
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| Quote: sanjunien "that's the ironic thing,RL is really taking off in the southeast (and East Anglia !) which is great but makes it even more baffling why people aren't turning out to see top flight RL !
it's a great sport / spectacle so what's the problem ?'"
It's so frustrating. Today - i switch on the telly and see blanket coverage of a frikkin' boat race, with the banks of The Thames packed with spectators. Tried Rugby Uinion on Sky Sports: and i mean really tried - to see the qualities in this game. You can see the difference in skills and fitness compared to RL. it's a total bore-athon. Yet, this game is head and shoulders over ours in terms of presentation and take-up and media coverage. I feel like doing this ........
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| Quote: littlerich "It's so frustrating. Today - i switch on the telly and see blanket coverage of a frikkin' boat race, with the banks of The Thames packed with spectators. Tried Rugby Uinion on Sky Sports: and i mean really tried - to see the qualities in this game. You can see the difference in skills and fitness compared to RL. it's a total bore-athon. Yet, this game is head and shoulders over ours in terms of presentation and take-up and media coverage. I feel like doing this ........
join the club mate !
beats me too !
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| Quote: sanjunien "that's the ironic thing,RL is really taking off in the southeast (and East Anglia !) which is great but makes it even more baffling why people aren't turning out to see top flight RL !
it's a great sport / spectacle so what's the problem ?'"
Terribly run club in just about every way. I wholeheartedly believe a SL club could thrive in the S.E. Just not run by these people and not within the M25.
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| Quote: littlerich "It's so frustrating. Today - i switch on the telly and see blanket coverage of a frikkin' boat race, with the banks of The Thames packed with spectators. Tried Rugby Uinion on Sky Sports: and i mean really tried - to see the qualities in this game. You can see the difference in skills and fitness compared to RL. it's a total bore-athon. Yet, this game is head and shoulders over ours in terms of presentation and take-up and media coverage. I feel like doing this ........
Dont worry about it, mass popularity isn't everything. RU is unwatchable, half of the best selling music is terrible and so are the most watched TV progs.
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| Quote: Tre Cool "Dont worry about it, mass popularity isn't everything. RU is unwatchable, half of the best selling music is terrible and so are the most watched TV progs.'"
I see. So, i should consider myself one of the lucky few who get to see the greatest game of all in splendid isolation from the masses? I like it. Makes me feel special
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| Quote: sanjunien "definition of 'Worthy'
1. Having worth, merit, or value; useful or valuable.
2. Honorable; admirable
Well first of all, yes, honestly I can. Explain to me how they do not meet your 'definition' of being worthy to be in the comp that has applied to all other teams before?
Actually it seems you missed the point, I didn't say give me a definitiion, I said define it, this would of course be in relation to the topic discussion. However as another poster has mentioned one could easily apply that to other clubs previously and yet they were not forced out.
The only let down for quins is the attendances, but this in itself is not a measure solely enough to run a club out of business or the competition,. E very other aspect is acceptable accept the playing level for their own fans. They are competitive and have beaten an in form Catalans.
So, again please show me how the London team are not 'worthy' to be in the comp, be honest you can't can you?
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| Quote: knockersbumpMKII "Well first of all, yes, honestly I can. Explain to me how they do not meet your 'definition' of being worthy to be in the comp that has applied to all other teams before?
Actually it seems you missed the point, I didn't say give me a definitiion, I said define it, this would of course be in relation to the topic discussion. However as another poster has mentioned one could easily apply that to other clubs previously and yet they were not forced out.
The only let down for quins is the attendances, but this in itself is not a measure solely enough to run a club out of business or the competition,. E very other aspect is acceptable accept the playing level for their own fans. They are competitive and have beaten an in form Catalans.
So, again please show me how the London team are not 'worthy' to be in the comp, be honest you can't can you?'"
yes, honestly I have missed the point
I really thought the criteria for being worthy of an SL place would be to be able boast a fairly healthy fan base and produce a reasonably competitive team without having to rely 100% on the generosity of a business tycoon
sorry for not understanding the concept of Super League affiliation - silly me
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| Quote: Tre Cool "Terribly run club in just about every way. I wholeheartedly believe a SL club could thrive in the S.E. Just not run by these people and not within the M25.'"
Worst run business I can think of.
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| Quote: sanjunien "yes, honestly I have missed the point
I really thought the criteria for being worthy of an SL place would be to be able boast a fairly healthy fan base and produce a reasonably competitive team without having to rely 100% on the generosity of a business tycoon
sorry for not understanding the concept of Super League affiliation - silly me
Yes very silly, you're trying to apply rules to one club and one club only though so you obviously don;t understand the rules at all & therefore have nothing to back up your arguement then?
Healthy fan base I'll give you as mentioned but it isn't the be all and end all by any stretch.
Competetive team, so you don't class beating Catalans as competitive then because Cats are obviously the wooden spooners this season of course How about the other teams that have finished in the bottom 3 or 4 in SL and getting pasted week in week out, some almost every year it seems yet Quins come in for special mention because you have something against them personally maybe like it appears many other RL 'fans'???
As for your last point re their financial backer, you've now debunked any credibility to your arguement, so according to you every single outgoing the quins/Broncos club is paid for by their backer? After all you did say they rely on their backer 100% did you not? By definition that is everything, no ommisions, he pays for the lot.
Somehow in the middle of your muddle I think you forget the SKY money, the SL competition money, sponsor monies, merchandise, admission sales, food/drink sales etc etc or was your 100% figure just another spiteful flight of fancy that you didn't actually think about like your whole concocted arguement???
C'mon, if you're going to start this you might as well put some effort in to show EXACTLY how the London club are NOT WORTHY to be in the comp....Please show workings out
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