I suppose you would have to hope that eventually there will be stand alone North American league producing its own players otherwise Superleague will finish up as a part time game once more & scratching round for players to complete fixtures.
Hopefully, an American league would help to solve the marketing problems that superleague struggles to deal with & give the game a higher profile.

It will be interesting to see what happens over the next few years.
There are some seriously well of people involved in US sport, that make those in charge of clubs over here look like paupers and when they (US owners) start to cherry pick the UK talent and affect the big 4/5 clubs over here.
As for a stand alone comp over there, this wont be remotely possible for 25+ years

You could remove the references to New York/North America and replace them with SW France and it'd be more accurate. Elite 1 has a heavy smattering of ANZACS and PI's, but the main difference is that the American sides currently in existence resemble the Hammersmith Hills Hoists more than say Villeneuve. Pub sides (and make no mistake, that's what these are) are reliant on transient players. A perfect example would be that 3 of these sides were unable to field full teams in games this season, including 2 games of the 4 conference semi-finals. Hey. Don't get me wrong. Amateur RL as a pastime for 8 weeks in summer may be doing OK, but I'd say your 1,000 players of a high standard in NYC is a stretch at best and the thing being discussed here isn't about amateur players or even "slightly older" ANZACS, but a professional side, being touted by a Gym Teacher who used to print programs using an online portal, with names being pulled from nowhere. Not sure what American Immigration officials will make of Todd Carney for instance



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To be clear here, Tony Feasey was the guy in charge of the NZ Police RL side and has taken that side on tours to North America. That's pretty much his qualification. As for him claiming that they will look to follow the Storm's model, it is estimated that the Storm were shedding $20,000,000 a year for the first 5 years and that they were still losing $8,000,000 a year after a decade. There's not one Victorian player in the Storms squad as named for the Storm for the coming season, but this amateur side tour manager and the PE instructor will pluck Americans out of thin air (whilst checking on French, English and Kolpak players, as well as NRL heritage players with Irish Grannies). They have repeatedly claimed a hotel chain and Airline, but named neither.
I'd love to see NYC, playing to packed houses in the Red Bull Stadium, but anyone who thinks that the London Leisure market is crowded should have a long hard look at what's on offer in NYC.

They banned him for being an obnoxious troublemaker. That is why he calls it "TotalFascistRL.com"

If he was banned on here, as he should be, then he would probably go to the Australian illiterates forum, Front Row Forum, and denounce this site as "RLFascistFans.com"

You do seem a little preoccupied with me of late buddy? I'd say I was flattered, but I would't know which one of you to thank

I am pleased to see that you didn't dispute my assertions.

Oh dear I may have got things a bit confused here and reading the Salary cap regulations hasn't helped me!! I was worried that rich overseas clubs could take our very best here using the two "marquee signings allowances" and Saints have a few of the very best!! Mr. Wrencat knows his stuff and he indicates that our very best players can be taken by rich NA clubs?

Any simple explanation of how it works would be welcome!! just how far can the NA clubs take the best players developed here? In short can three or four rich NA clubs take the best six or eight English players?? It's bad enough producing great players here and them going to Rugby Union and the NRL, without them going to North America as well. I know they will stay in the same league if they sign for NA clubs, but this would surely still create tremendous resentment?

No. I didn't pay any heed to them because like your assertions, here there and everywhere under various guises , they are wide of the mark!

10 to 15 years can't even happen unless large enough numbers of North American youngsters take up Rugby league, along with NA coaches and other volunteers? When will that ever happen there? The USARL on wiki appears to be a handful of clubs playing a handful of games. I've seen it suggested most of them are actually Rugby Union players playing a bit of league off season . What is the truth of the matter?? How can there be 1,000 USA players when last year only eight clubs played between six and eight games?



I can't help thinking that London losing their status to TWP was a blow for the English game, so do Wakefield go for New York, do Huddersfield go for Ottawa, do Salford go for Boston and do HKR go for Montreal and do Castleford go for Vancouver?? Last week Aussie administrator Shane Richardson (who founded Gateshead) commented there were only enough quality players for a 10 club Superleague in the Northern Hemisphere. If I am to believe anyone I'd believe him. Do half the English SL club owners and their fans just stand aside whilst their clubs are excluded from superleague and their players shipped to America?? There must come a point where very serious conflict arises???

I said there are about 1000 guys who have played League over the 20 years they have been playing.
They are all guys who have a good, solid grounding in our game and could contribute in some way, if only explaining the game to fellow Americans.
The Toronto team came from absolutely no where with no ground work to build on.
New York is a much larger and richer city with a much larger ex-pat community, 20 solid years of ground work including efforts to develop highschool and junior comps, and they also have the blueprint of Toronto to follow.
Any rational person (not you lot) could see that they come from a much stronger position than Toronto started from.
If Toronto had followed your script and failed miserably at every turn, you might have an argument that a better prepared bid from New York is also doomed from the start, but guess what, Toronto have achieved all they set out to achieve till this point.

The important bit here is that Toronto were driven by Perez and funded by a RL fan with cash to burn. Perez walked when it became apparent that Argyle wasn't interested in development, but more so in success. This isn't a new thing in sports or RL. David Hughes is on record as saying he funds the London Broncos so he can watch his team with his mates. There's no harm in this, so long as it doesn't negatively impact the league they play in.....in my eyes, it doesn't, so let him carry on.
The problem with NYC is that this is being driven by a couple of amateur enthusiasts, who claim to have backers in place and grand plans for converting Union/NFL players, but with very little of substance thereafter.
It's not dissimilar to the early days of Toronto, but will NYC stick to their plan or will the money men either take the reigns like Argyle did, or walk once they realise that this is a £20,000,000 investment that will continue to lose shed loads of money until they have 4 or 5 other North American Clubs with something to sell to TV execs.

There's an interview on another site with the bloke at the helm of Toronto. He's asked if they are looking at buying the rights for their games from SKY...the answer is pretty non-committal. He does say that SBW signing will add 1,000 season tickets to their income and that they expect to sell 2,500 all told. CA$399 X 2,500....call it a Million Canadian Dollars or £600k. The Cost of running a SL club is a minimum of £4,000,000. Add into that SBW's £2.5 million a year and this is a money pit that cannot hope to make a cent in return in its current stadium or with no TV income.....this is the business model that the NYC and other "investors" are seeing.....it's not sustainable

What? A wealthy Bloke who lost patience with the "find a star' approach, so binned off the driving force who wanted local development and instead filled the team with mercenaries and the stadium with free tickts and who has so far flushed between £5 and 10 million down the pan excluding SBW? Yeah...that's a cracking business model and I've repeatedly shown what happened to the much wealthier London Monarchs.........

No they don't. We have no idea who the money is, who the airline sponsor is, the hotel sponsor is....we've just got a gym teacher and an admin bloke from NZ police blowing smoke up a load of 'arrises!