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| Quote reffy="reffy"It is a step nearer binning the VRs, I like it.'"
Me too. It might ensure that the on field officials improve their acts
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| I don't think the VR shouldn't be able to rule on things like offside - if they're looking at a try then they should be able to check other obvious things. IMO the biggest problem with the VR is the amount of time it takes - they should be limited to a minute to review and no more. With unlimited time because they're under pressure to get it right they look at everything in excrutiating detail and it just takes way too long.
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| The ideas generally seem sensible. The VR should be there to judge on binary issues (touchlines, groundings etc) not issues of intepretation. That's what the on-field referee is for and when we have a VR trying to interpet something like "whether an aerial challenge is fair", that's what creates these lengthy deliberations and contentious decisions.
Only thing I would say though is that I saw no issue with the 'on field call' aspect. I think the process should be "unless you can prove otherwise, my decision will be....". Under this new system do we go back to "benefit of the doubt" if a VR can't conclusively judge? I think people forget how much of a minefield that was.
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| It is more about entertainment and drama and less about getting it correct.
I miss the good old days when you could be arguing about a decision all week without conclusion, then move on to next week’s dodgy decision. Monday lunch times at work were not to be missed.
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| Quote BrisbaneRhino="BrisbaneRhino"I don't think the VR shouldn't be able to rule on things like offside - if they're looking at a try then they should be able to check other obvious things. IMO the biggest problem with the VR is the amount of time it takes - they should be limited to a minute to review and no more. With unlimited time because they're under pressure to get it right they look at everything in excrutiating detail and it just takes way too long.'"
Why not? It is probably the easiest thing to determine via the use of video replay, and should really only need one look at before a decision can be made.
The alternative is to leave it up to the touch judges to make the onside/offside call, and our touch judges have hardly covered themselves in glory recently.
If the tech is available why not use it?
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| Quote reffy="reffy"It is more about entertainment and drama and less about getting it correct.
I miss the good old days when you could be arguing about a decision all week without conclusion, then move on to next week’s dodgy decision. Monday lunch times at work were not to be missed.'"
You can miss those 'good old days' all you want but they're gone, and that wouldn't happen now.
Instead we would see replays proving a decision one way or the other. So if the officials get the decision wrong we will know, instantly, about the sporting injustice of it.
Why would you want mistakes to determine sporting results? You can still have plenty of drama and lunchtime discussion without a ref's mistake leaving a sour taste in the mouth.
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| Quote Wigg'n="Wigg'n"No checking of knock on in general play? Erm, why?'"
Usually a job for the ref to spot.He manages the rest of the game
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| Two excellent post by Nothus. Well said. 
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| Asking Sky to stop micro anylising every single decision looking for controversy. Slow-mo, super slow-mo, frame by frame by frame and super zoom all drawing attention to the referees getting a marginal call wrong. Not to go all "Leaguefreek" but I still bet the referee typically makes no more errors than the average player in a game but partly due to the telly coverage they are all highlighted time and again.
Do football forums have threads every single weeks about what ref their team has got this week? "Oh no, we've got Thaler - we've no chance" or "We never win with Childs reffing us" and the like are . I speak to reasonable football fans often and they have little or no care who the ref is/was in Leeds Utd games, wonder if it's unique to us as a sport/set of supporters?
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| Quote Tommy Duckfingers="Tommy Duckfingers"Asking Sky to stop micro anylising every single decision looking for controversy. Slow-mo, super slow-mo, frame by frame by frame and super zoom all drawing attention to the referees getting a marginal call wrong. Not to go all "Leaguefreek" but I still bet the referee typically makes no more errors than the average player in a game but partly due to the telly coverage they are all highlighted time and again.
Do football forums have threads every single weeks about what ref their team has got this week? "Oh no, we've got Thaler - we've no chance" or "We never win with Childs reffing us" and the like are . I speak to reasonable football fans often and they have little or no care who the ref is/was in Leeds Utd games, wonder if it's unique to us as a sport/set of supporters?'"
The NRL bunker doesn't p!$$ about like our VR does,they get on with it, in an instance.
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| I just cant understand why the RFL didn't do this at the Magic weekend when all the "senior" referees where taking charge.
To do it this weekend at The Bash could potentially see it descend into chaos.
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| Quote Binosh="Binosh"I just cant understand why the RFL didn't do this at the Magic weekend when all the "senior" referees where taking charge.
To do it this weekend at The Bash could potentially see it descend into chaos.'"
Even though i don't agree with it, you make a very good point.
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